Talk:Festival of Lights/Archive 1

VFD Results
Johnleemk | Talk 17:01, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

READ THIS FIRST
This page is unique, and tweaks some of the Wikipedia guidelines to thier limits. A/The/- Festival/Celebration of Light(s) comprises thousands of events across the world, many of which, do not deserve their own Wikipedia entry. While being a disambiguation page to other pages or subsections of other pages, it is also technically a list, a sort of compilation of dead end low noteworthyness stubs. Without this page people would constantly create stubs for these events and fight over the very limited permutations of a very common name. Since this is also a list/compilation-of-stubs there are external links after every entry.
 * Tiki God 20:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Massive Rewrite
If one looks at the VFD for this article one sees that the main argument was that the one festival it talked about was not noteworthy enough for it's own entry, but that there were many other festivals all over the world called 'A/The Festival of Light(s)'. Every other one mule town in America has a 'Festival of Lights' during Christmas, none of which deserves a Wikipedia entry, but which might deserve at least an entry here along with one or two sentences.

Light displays are (one) of my interests and I hope to fill this disambig page with the better (bigger) ones out there along with internal/external links.


 * Tiki God 06:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Redirects
There are a number of similar titles that possibly should link here. Since this is a disambiguation page it would be nice if the following titles redirect to this page, unless they are very big, well known events or groups that merit getting rights to such a title all to themselves. I'm going to merge/redirect Festival of Light here right now, and look into Celebration of Light when I get the chance.


 * Festival of Light
 * Festival of light
 * Festival of Lights
 * Festival of lights


 * A Festival of Light
 * A Festival of light
 * A festival of light
 * A festival of Light
 * A Festival of Lights
 * A Festival of lights
 * A festival of lights
 * A festival of Lights


 * The Festival of Light
 * The Festival of light
 * The festival of light
 * The festival of Light
 * The Festival of Lights
 * The Festival of lights
 * The festival of lights
 * The festival of Lights


 * Celebration of Light Maybe not this one if there are no others on the internet (i doubt it).
 * Celebration of light ditto
 * Celebration of Lights
 * Celebration of lights


 * A Celebration of Light
 * A Celebration of light
 * A celebration of light
 * A celebration of Light
 * A Celebration of Lights
 * A Celebration of lights
 * A celebration of lights
 * A celebration of Lights


 * The Celebration of Light
 * The Celebration of light
 * The celebration of light
 * The celebration of Light
 * The Celebration of Lights
 * The Celebration of lights
 * The celebration of lights
 * The celebration of Lights


 * Tiki God 09:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Celebration of Light
The HSBC Celebration of Light took up the first three pages of a google search so I guess it deserves it's own entry. Don't redirect it here.
 * Tiki God 06:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Disambig and Order
This is getting a little big (and detailed) for a 'normal' disambiguation page, but it's still better than having a stub for each of these small events, and is keeping with the results of the VFD discussion held before. A lot of places listed here do have wikipedia entries which are linked, even if the event in question is not part of that place's article. If there is something different than a disambiguation tag for a page like this please speak up. Perhaps a list?, Like 'List of A/The/- Festival/Celebration of Light/Lights'?

Except for the first religious and cultural events, it's getting kind of hard to judge the 'size' (attendance) of these small events. I'm thinking of reordering this section into alphabetical order. The only problem is that several of the events have changed name over time, and some events have ambiguous titles like Celebration of Light which can be 'The Celebration of Light', 'The Benson & Hedges Symphony of Fire', and 'The HSBC Celebration of Light'.
 * Tiki God 08:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed Cleanup Tag
I get sick of people taking 10 seconds to plaster tags all over an article without:


 * A: Spending 5 minutes doing whatever the tags says (cleanup, wikify, sources, etc...)
 * B: Reading the talk page to see why a page might be the way it is.

This article was nominated for deletion last year because it talked about one "Festival of Light" when there are hundreds. The consensus was to change the page into a disambiguation page. Because many of the the "A/The/- Festival/Celebration of Light(s)" don't have Wikipedia articles (yet), they have a short description here. This disambiguation page is unique almost a combination of a disambiguation page and a list page.

Without the page in this format every one of these events would be a meaningless stub (3 sentences, orphaned / dead-end), and they would all be fighting over a few permutations of the same name. The page in this format serves a useful purpose, and many different people have worked to clean it up to Wikipedia standards of style.


 * Tiki God 15:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Order of Events
The Cultural events are easy to order by attendance (or the population of the cultural group), but the other ones are so numeraour that I'm going to order them by: Hopefully, this way, no one event can claim favoritism in event order. (At least until someone starts the Aardvark Festival of Light, In Antioch, Antilles.)
 * City
 * State/Province/Region
 * Country (The English name of the country, IE Germany not Deutchland)
 * With the name of the event used only to break a tie.
 * Tiki God 08:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC)