Talk:Fever (Dua Lipa and Angèle song)

The Sun
Since The Sun is an unreliable source and we are unable to include it in the article, here are the links to the two article mentioned: We may have to refer to these for descriptions of what the articles wrote. Even though this is an unreliable source, since Lipa herself called it out, it is important to include their false reports. LOVI 33  14:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Dua Lipa's music video shoot raided by cops after star and extras 'flouted' Covid rules
 * Dua Lipa – an apology

Requested move 30 October 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

moved Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Fever (Dua Lipa song) → Fever (Dua Lipa and Angèle song) – I have been able to verify by references that the song was credited as a duet and not a featuring. Alexismata7 (talk) 14:22, 30 October 2020 (UTC)


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Angèle - a featured artist?
Hello all! I am wondering if Angèle is a featured artist or not. User has already changed her to a lead artist, but I am still uncertain. Lipa mentioned twice, and Warner Music UK referred to her as a featured artist, plus the cover art released (shown in infobox) mentions her as a featured artist. Many sources have also mentioned that she is a featured artist: Many sources have also referred to it as a collaboration with Angèle, which doesn't necessarily mean she is a lead artist, I just thought it is worth mentioning: Finally, On digital download and streaming platforms: Apple Music, Tidal, Spotify, Deezer, Pandora, Amazon Music and YouTube (both audio and lyric videos) refer to Angèle as a lead artist. Qobuz refers to solely Lipa as the main artist, but also a collaboration between the two, while YouTube Music refers to her as a featured artist. So what do you think? LOVI 33  14:58, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Billboard: Dua Lipa feat. Angèle, "Fever"
 * NME: 'Fever', featuring Belgian singer Angèle
 * Official Charts Company: Fever ft. Belgian pop singer Angèle
 * Consequence of Sound: a new single called "Fever" featuring Belgian singer Angèle
 * Vulture: "Fever," featuring Belgium singer Angèle
 * Evening Standard: a sultry track featuring Belgian singer Angèle
 * Stereoboard: Dua Lipa Drops New Single Fever Featuring Angèle
 * She is additionally credited as a featured artist on all charting websites. Some Examples: Australia, France, Belgium
 * Rolling Stone: Dua Lipa has joined forces with Belgium’s Angèle for the sultry new song "Fever."
 * Idolator: teaming up with Belgian pop star Angèle for a new single called "Fever."
 * Stereogum: with the Belgian singer Angèle
 * Pitchfork: Dua Lipa has teamed up with Belgian singer-songwriter Angèle for a new song called "Fever."
 * The pre-save page additionally refers to it as a collaboration between Lipa and Angèle.

Hi I think the sources you cite could be influenced by the artwork which says the song is a featuring with Angèle. I think the final answer is given by the streaming platforms. Per MOS:TITLE we had to wait until this date today to know the accreditation of the official release. This is a case similar to the request move of "Rain on Me". Alexismata7 (talk) 16:44, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am not disagreeing with you, but I just think its weird how the promotion buildup (Social media post's by Lipa and Warner Music, plus the cover art) credited Angèle as a featured artist, but credited her as a lead artists on digital download and streaming platforms. I have reviewed the "Rain on Me" requested move, and It was requested before the song was released. As far as I'm aware, Ariana Grande was never credited as a featured artist like Angèle was so I think we definitely need to establish a consensus before moving the page. LOVI  33  17:20, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

You're right. Let's see what others think. ,, , , ,  Alexismata7 (talk) 02:08, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Before I saw the cover art I was more inclined to say she was a co-lead artist but the cover art says “featuring” on it so I honestly don’t know what to think. If the cover art just had the two artists’ names on it, then I’d be more inclined to say co-lead since that’s what the streaming services say. But since the cover art says featured, and so do multiple sources, this is made more complicated. Unlike Rain on Me, which to my knowledge was billed as Gaga and Grande almost everywhere, this appears to be a more difficult issue to solve. CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 13:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Particularly the artwork was revealed days before the release, indicating that the song would be a featuring. When the release day arrived, the accreditation was changed, I think we should be guided by the official credits that musical platforms provide, beyond what media like Billboard, NME, Vulture and Consequence of Sound can interpret about whether it is a duet or a featuring. Alexismata7 (talk) 15:25, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The retail listings say "Dua Lipa & Angele" as does streaming. Other option would be to leave until it charts. ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 21:51, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Based upon the links provided I would support an article name change to "Fever (Dua Lipa and Angèle song)". Carbrera (talk) 23:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC).
 * makes a good point. Maybe we should wait to see how the Official Charts Company and Billboard credit Angèle on chart positions, assuming the song charts in the United States and United Kingdom. As I mentioned above, chart tracking websites such as australian-charts.com mention her as a featured artist. LOVI  33  01:13, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Also Universal Music Publishing say on their homepage "feat. Angele" but "& Angele" on the single page. Just to add to the confusion. Having said that, Dua is signed to Warner and Warner are releasing the single. ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 01:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

I think they were initially going to make Angèle a featured artist prior to the release, but decided to change it after. Might explain why secondary sources all say Angèle due to press releases, while the streaming services all seem to suggest she is a lead artist. I would support the name change, but I also have a similar problem over at Talk:Lemonade (Internet Money and Gunna song), so I would be interested to see what you guys think about my move request for that article too. Nahnah4 (talk &#124; contribs) 17:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Per this interview with Dua and Angele, which is supported by the record label, it's clearly Dua Lipa's song. She says she wrote it and sent it to Angele. The cover art pops up, so does a caption saying "Dua Lipa feat. Angele" and then also the record label is listed as Warner which is Dua's record label. The interview is from the 30th. ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 16:30, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I didn't see any record label coverage in the interview. The video is an exclusive from Konbini, a source that in the video credited the song as featuring, said source has no relationship with Warner Records, it is another unofficial source that interprets that Angèle is a featured artist. Having a definitive position is difficult because the official credits say one thing but the interview invites us to interpret the case in another way. Alexismata7 (talk) 17:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly certain if the label / Dua's manager weren't happy with the interview they would not have allowed it to present in that way. The record labels provide the info to the charts which already list "featured" as does the single cover. It might be worth waiting for Billboard or a direct label source. ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 17:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Right now I don't really have an opinion yet, I'm probably going to wait for more info such as chart positions, but the interview provided makes a good point. Warner Records is clearly attempting to push this song as a feature. Here are some examples from Warner Records UK and Warner Music UK that support this, but I think we can all agree that Dua is the main artist, even if Angèle is also a lead. LOVI 33  18:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

So according to the Official Chart Company's UK Trending song chart, Angèle is credited as a featured artist. Right now it looks like the song is predicted to enter the UK Singles Chart so we can also see then, but we should also wait for Billboard's credit. LOVI 33  15:17, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Well, the music video is out and credits Angèle as lead artist. Alexismata7 (talk) 13:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I think I will support the move now as the Official Charts Company has credited Angèle as a lead artist. LOVI  33  18:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Angèle's first English song？
I find some content of this article says it is the first English song of Angèle. But Angèle's earlier work "La Loi de Murphy" also has many English lyriclyrics… But both of them have many French lyrics, which is apparently different from English. So,how do we define the word, English song? Or maybe we should use other words to replace it.--波斯波莉斯 (talk) 06:02, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It's indeed not her first English-language song, "La Loi de Murphy" and "Flemme" from 2017 have also lyrics in English sung by Angèle. In fact, she doesn't even sing in English on "Fever" (except a small part of the chorus). It might be sourced, but "Fever" being her first English-language song remains incorrect. I rather think it should be described as "Angèle's first participation on an English/foreign/international song". Romain Rousseau (talk) 22:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Article history
For anyone confused as to why only the second GA review is in the history on this talk page, it is because the first review was closed due to the nominator abandoning it but deletion was never followed through with. --K. Peake 20:50, 1 July 2021 (UTC)