Talk:Fez, Morocco

Image of people
Hi and, I think the issue raised in this edit (now reverted) is legitimate. The image comes from Flickr, from an author who regularly marks their photos as freely-licensed, but just because the children wanted to have a picture taken at the time (which is something I've encountered often when traveling) doesn't mean in concrete terms that they have consented to have their picture on Wikipedia too. I think it's reasonable anywhere to assume that when you agree to let a private individual take a picture of you, you're not necessarily thinking about them licensing it for public use on a high-traffic website. I'm especially keeping in mind that they are children, without their parents present at the time most likely, so it's even more iffy. They might actually be happy to have their picture here, but we can't ask them either way. I don't think the guidelines on privacy address this situation specifically, but I think there's an common-sense ethical question here beyond the legal technicality of licensing. I prefer to err on the side of caution. What do others think? R Prazeres (talk) 15:02, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree. If it were adults, no problem. Children may not even be aware of the implications of a stranger taking a picture of them, let alone putting it online.-- Ideophagous (talk) 15:32, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * An alternative image with adults has been added in its place. Thanks, . R Prazeres (talk) 05:30, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Art section
The art section is a little lacking, but I'm struggling to find good sources to expand upon it. Any help would be appreciated. More content about the Académie des Arts for example could be beneficial. –– Formal Dude  (talk)  18:35, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I've added a short bit about zellij, as the corresponding article already mentions the importance of Fez in this regard. There are other traditional crafts that may be worth mentioning, but many of them are also regional traditions so it may be hard to find information specific to Fez. It would indeed also be good to know more about local contemporary artists and/or performance arts (theatre, if significant, or music) . R Prazeres (talk) 18:51, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, scrap that last part; I forgot that there's a music section already, so this section is more about visual arts. R Prazeres (talk) 18:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Images removed
I have removed the following images for copyright violations. Posting here in case anyone can remedy the copyright issues or find a freely licensed alternative. –– Formal Dude  (talk)  02:01, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * File:Abdication of Abd al-Hafid of Morocco (1912, Le Petit Journal).jpg – Published in 1912 with an unknown author, it cannot be assumed that 70 years have passed since the author's death.
 * File:Gare de Fes 2011.jpg – This rail station was built in 2009 and copyright lasts 70 years after the death of the architect.


 * Not a big deal if we leave it out anyways, but the first one should be fine. For anonymous or collective works, it goes into public domain after 70 years (both in France and in the US). A 1912 newspaper should fall under that, and it's been marked as PD in Commons for a while. R Prazeres (talk) 02:47, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Good catch. I've updated the license for that image and restored it to the article. –– Formal Dude  (talk)  21:01, 30 November 2023 (UTC)