Talk:Fifth Avenue/53rd Street station/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Kingsif (talk · contribs) 00:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Style

 * Good length lead for article.
 * Well written lead, with good use of wikilinks, particularly expansion on IND
 * History section well written - have there been any more recent upgrades since '59?
 * Made a small tweak for flow regards the 50s project.
 * Edited a certain phrase "either x", for grammar, but because it's been used so much I feel like it may be correct in the dialect of whomever added it?
 * Good paragraph linking and flow in general.
 * Changed the notable places list to columns for length.
 * Pass

Coverage

 * History section well written - have there been any more recent upgrades since '59?
 * I will look into it tomorrow.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ big expansion - well done, very nice! Kingsif (talk) 17:20, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem. I knew there was a renovation, but did not realize that there was readily available information on it.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Question on the sentence "There is a junction west of this station..." - the directions are a little confusing, are they relational or absolute? The book is offline so I couldn't check for myself. A clarification like the "west (railroad south) end" in the next section would help
 * ✅--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the painting info belong in History?
 * ✅--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Needs attention

Illustration

 * Honestly, does very well managing all its media in such a short article without being messy. So, well done.
 * The station and track layouts are useful; they may be clearer if separated and not against the infobox, but the article would clearly need more content to make that possible.
 * The image of the staircase is illustrative and informative, but I'm not seeing the relevance of the other platform image in the gallery, when the infobox image is of the same platform? There's a nice commons image of the street entrance, which would be more valuable, in my opinion.
 * ✅--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Pass - but still the gallery image question.

Neutrality

 * Neutrally-written. The only contentious element would be the ranking as deteriorated I guess, and that's kept simple.
 * Pass

Verifiability

 * All sources look good, some are unavailable but AGF.
 * Was dubious about "thejoekorner", especially when clicking on it looks like a 90s teenager trying their best, but the quality of archive materials on there seems to make it quality.
 * He worked for the NYCTA for decades and really knew his stuff. Even so, it is a WP:SPS, and given that I already had better sources, I took it out.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:10, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Pass

Stability

 * I'm confused that this was nominated in May, but the page was moved in June? And the editor who then moved the page has later made edits against a consensus - was this move supposed to happen? Seems a bit unstable.
 * Dubious - question to be answered
 * This article and most subway articles were moved per WP:NYCSRFC. I and a few other editors in WP:NYCPT disagreed with the decision, but a decision was reached, and life moves on. There is nothing unstable in the edit history for this article, which means that there should be no issue.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that clarification :) Kingsif (talk) 01:16, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Copyright

 * Check - even with a low score, there are multiple verbatim phrases. However, these seem to fit as phrases that can't easily be reworded and still sound normal, so that should be good.
 * Images all commons.
 * Pass

Overall

 * on hold needs a bit of work, see comments. Kingsif (talk) 00:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for taking up this article!--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol support vote.svg Pass - great updates done by ; after the review I asked a friend who's been to NYC a lot if she has any photos of the station, I imagine they'll be on commons soon if so, if you wanted to give the category a look and see if there was anything to add to the article (though now there's more content, more images anyway; it was an idea for the gallery). Kingsif (talk) 17:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking up this review!--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:55, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you know why I wasn't pinged or why Logobot didn't add the GA symbol to the article?--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:58, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to guess Logobot is behind - sometimes it's immediate, sometimes it needs a bit of a kick. Kingsif (talk) 19:17, 12 September 2019 (UTC)