Talk:Fifth Estate

June Klein
June Klein's 1992 Electronic-BoardroomTMVi(r) trademark incorporates a fuller concept of the Fifth Estate. The vision and execution is registered in 6 classes of business: TV, newsletter, network conferencing, database, education, and consulting. The Fifth Estate is more than computer-generated, internet enabled communications interacting with The Fourth Estate and taking on unprecedented paths for new voices, media, institutions and government. Technology & Marketing Ventures, Inc. highlights the importance of transparency, governance and Accountability. We support the Oxford Internet Institute and Bill Dutton's definition shown in WikipediA: "The Fifth Estate is not simply the blogging community nor an extension of media, but 'networked individuals' enabled by the Internet in ways that can hold the other estates accountable." We welcome opportunities to collaborate on The Fifth Estate as it is what we consider to be the future of the internet. June Klein, CEO Technology & Marketing Ventures, Inc. http://electronic-boardroom.com/trademarkuses.html JuneKlein (talk) 18:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


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What is the official Press?
First paragraph of the article refers to the fifth being "in opposition to mainstream media (the official Press)".

What is "official" about mainstream media? Indeed, what is the "mainstream" media?

I found the word "official" particularly noticeable as I came from the Fourth Estate page which starts with
 * The Fourth Estate (or fourth estate) is a societal or political force or institution whose influence is not consistently or officially recognized. "Fourth Estate" most commonly refers to the news media; especially print journalism or "the press".

Not very "official" sounding at all. [User:Jalanb|Jalanb]] (talk) 11:22, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Narrow, dubious definition
The definition departs from that of Merriam-Webster, which generally is better-edited than Wikipedia. GenacGenac (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)