Talk:Fight the Power (Public Enemy song)

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Can't be sure because I'm a little stoned now, but wasn't this song also used in the 2005 film Jarhead?
 * No, you're just imagining it.
 * well your not to stoned bcause there was a song by public enemy on the movie

Song plays during one scene in the 2016 movie Star Trek Beyond.

Reference
The header for this article says that this song was ranked #1 on VH1's top 100 Hip Hop songs, but there reference goes to some other list. Here's a source, added this: http://stereogum.com/archives/vh1s-100-greatest-hiphop-songs_024391.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.210.219.94 (talk) 10:01, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Soundbite intro
In at least some versions there is a sound clip at the beginning of a man who is speaking, apparently to a group of people. Does anyone know who this is or what this is from? "... the best trained, best educated, best equipped, best prepared troops refuse to fight..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_Tareyton_smokers_would_rather_fight_than_switch!

Thanks very much!


 * That clip is attributed to MLK in the Tareyton article, but here it is attributed to Thomas "TNT" Todd, one (or both?) of the two articles must be wrong.

Gurren Lagann
The song from Gurren Lagann is not the same "Fight the Power". I be removing this bit.--90.201.176.8 (talk) 16:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Elvis
I believe that there was some controversy about the labelling of Elvis as "racist" in the lyrics to this song. If some supporting material could be found, would that be worth mentioning in the article? Epa101 (talk) 20:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * @Epa101 Chuck D is a known racist so let's stop calling Elvis one, who by many accounts grew up immersed in black culture. 75.231.94.135 (talk) 02:31, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Tawana Brawley
" Brawley gained national notoriety in 1987 when, at the age of 15, she accused several police officers and public officials from Wappingers Falls, New York of raping her. The charge was rejected in court, and she instead was sued for supposedly fabricating her story." There is a page for Tawana Brawley's accusations. These details seem to have nothing to do with the movie. Do digressions like this really belong? (Also, the other page refers to "Wappinger, NY" and not Wappingers Falls. The latter seems consistent with the contemporary NYT articles, but this disagreement probably should be resolved.) Danchall (talk) 14:00, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

A quote is necessary to support this factual claim
For the moment, until a quote is sourced (not just a citation, which cannot be readily viewed on the Internet), I have removed the following statement: "... members of The Bomb Squad such as Chuck D and Hank Schocklee wanted to eschew melodic clarity and harmonic coherence in favor of a specific mood in the composition." To me, this is a major claim, as the writer is establishing, as fact, what D and Schocklee "wanted"—it is a big call to claim to know what the creators of a composition that is many years old actually "wanted." The best way to support this is with a quote that clearly shows that this is what both artists wanted.--Soulparadox (talk) 10:23, 27 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Not assuming good faith is not a valid reason to remove sourced material. I'm sensing you disagree with the material you removed, since you didn't remove anything else attributed to the Walser citation. Dan56 (talk) 10:26, 27 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The source, Robert Walser (musicologist), is reliable, and the page cited is accessible → . Dan56 (talk) 10:33, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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– I am unsure if the Public Enemy song from 1989 is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, given that the Isley Brothers song "Fight the Power (Part 1 & 2)" came first (1975) and was a far more popular song in its day, peaking at #4 in the Billboard Hot 100 in addition to #1 in the R&B chart. In contrast, the PE song peaked at #20 on the same R&B chart in '89 and did not chart at all on the Hot 100 but did reach #1 on the rap chart.
 * Fight the Power → Fight the Power (Public Enemy song)
 * Fight the Power (disambiguation) → Fight the Power

Also, the Isley Brothers song has often been referred to without the "Part 1 & 2". The album cover of The Heat Is On contains the text "Featuring Fight the Power". A 1999 Jet magazine story refers to the song simply as "Fight the Power" as does a 1976 Billboard story. So there is the chance that some incoming links to Fight the Power intended for the Isley song might be incorrect.

In terms of Google results, there are 247k for "Fight the Power" "Public Enemy" vs. 50k for "Fight the Power" "Isley Brothers". However, recentism is to be avoided. However, an argument that the PE song is more notable than the Isley song that I anticipate could be that it is regarded by the American Film Institute as among the greatest movie songs of the 20th century. Arbor to SJ (talk) 06:27, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support, and while we're at it print sources just call the other song "Fight the Power (The Isley Brothers song)", so that also needs titling clearly. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:13, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Reply: "Fight the Power (Part 1 & 2)" (or "Pt." for "Part") is used commonly enough we can leave the title to be per WP:NATURALDIS, as it is the actual song title listed on the back of The Heat Is On. Arbor to SJ (talk) 01:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


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