Talk:Fighting Temptation/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Rp0211  (talk2me)  20:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

OVERALL REVIEW I was originally going to put this article on hold because there were only minor mistakes. However, upon full review of the article, I have decided to fail the article at this time. There were a few reasons that made this article from reaching good article status. To start with, the synopsis of the "Music video" section does not have any sources, making it violate WP:NOR and WP:VERIFY. Second, the "Charts" section does not use Template:Singlechart for every chart. Third, the prose of the article could use some work. It needs to be proofread before the next good article nomination, which includes checking for grammar, spelling, etc. Fourth, the article could use some more references, as it only has 13 right now.

I believe that will all of the issues, it should be failed and not be put on-hold because of the length of all of this issues. However, you are welcome to renominate this article once all of the issues presented here have been addressed. Good luck next time. - Rp0211  (talk2me)  22:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Pass or Fail:

Introduction
 * "It was composed by the latter..." - Specify exactly who ✅ Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Context
 * Try to find more than one source
 * As i told you before, i have done the maximum. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Conception
 * "...and was produced by Elliot." - Make a separate sentence from writers of song ✅ Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * "Fighting Tempation" is an R&B-funk song... - Fix spelling; "an R&B-funk song" should be "a R&B-funk song"
 * I do not agree here. See other articles. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


 * "According to Dani Boobyer of the United Kingdom-based website..." - Specify what United Kingdom-based website
 * It is there. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Release
 * "Once you hear the song ['Fighting Temptation']..." - No need for brackets around "Fighting Temptation" ✅ Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * "Fighting Temptation charted in mainland Europe in early 2004." - Fix quotations and cite source ✅ Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually this was a general sentence to summarize where it charted. But i sourced it because i cannot contradict you so much. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


 * "In Belgium (Flanders)..." - Wiki-link and specify what chart✅ Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * "On August 29, 2004, the single debuted and peaked at number forty-two in Switzerland." - Specify what chart it charted on ✅ Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Trust me, this was also not necessary but nevertheless, i did it.

Music video
 * "The accompanying music video for the song was directed by Antti Jokinen and it features Knowles, Elliott, MC Lyte and Free." - No source ✅ Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * We do not need a source next to each sentence. The source was there after the second sentence ends. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


 * The "Synopsis" subsection does not have any sources, making it violate WP:NOR and WP:VERIFY
 * Synopsi do not need to be sourced WP:PLOTSUM. Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Track listing
 * No issues

Charts
 * Does not follow the Template:Singlechart for ALL charts
 * singlechart is not compulsory. Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

References
 * The references seem OK, but there are only 13 of them; try to expand the article


 * All done. Thank you. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that the mistakes are fixed, I feel confident putting this article in good article status. Congratulations and keep up the good work. - Rp0211  (talk2me)  17:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. You too keep on the good work. Hope we will keep in touch. Bye.  Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  17:58, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

My thoughts

 * Without sounding impolite, i want to let you know that guidelines and rules established here do not say that we should use the single template at any cost.
 * Synopsis does not require references. See other GAs, unless there are comparisons which have been made by critics
 * I cannot expand this article more because it is just a soundtrack single and normally such singles do not get much attention.
 * To know how much meat i have put into this, see how the article was in March 2011.
 * I think you have failed it hastily. But i will not ask for a second opinion because i am 'very busy in real life. I have some personal problem.
 * Bye.

Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  04:59, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, after looking at these comments from you, I am willing to put this article on hold for the other issues to be fixed. I am human, and I do make mistakes. After being involved in other music articles, I assumed that you had to use Template:Singlechart and I did not know that you could write a synopsis without any sources. Therefore, you will now have about seven days (according to WP:GAN) to fix the mistakes I have presented and/or talk to me about the ones you believe are incorrect. Sorry for the inconvenience. - Rp0211  (talk2me)  23:37, 28 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Please do not start thinking i am rude. sorry if i was a bit too direct. And thanks wholeheartedly. I shall make the fixes in two days. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  05:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)