Talk:Figure moe zoku

This page makes no sense
This page makes no sense at all. Did someone run a Japanese text through an automatic translator? It does seem like that. This page also seems heavily biased, though the language makes it hard to tell. Citation, please!

Sorry, Japanese edition is stopping to discuss NPOV now... I think we should translate Japanese edition after the discussion is end and topic is fixed. My rough Engish sentence is just a summary of this topic. thanks Kotoba Mamoru 15:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear 24.108.161.71 Thanks for your correcting on "Figure moe zoku". I'm one of main writer in Japanese page in Wikipedia and Japanese Web site of "Figure moe zoku" problems. But I am not good at English. "Figure moe zoku" is an important topic to show how Otaku culture and Japanese mass media have frictions. Please correct the page to be more understandable for oversea.

Thanks Kotoba Mamoru 13:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll fix as soon as I find some spare time :)

Dear 84.156.172.240 and Nihonjoe. Thanks for your correcting for "Figure moe zoku". Now, Japanese Otaku culture is in the crisis as shown in this website.

The beginning of this crisis is "Figure moe zoku" and other comments of journalists that consider Otaku culture as a reason of child kidnaping crimes.

Now Japanese people is in mass hysteria. They are too nervous to guard children. And they need to find sacrifice because anti-crime activity is so difficult. That's like a Witch-hunt. Sex and violence in Anime, Manga and Video games are their target. Some politicos tries to restrict these cultures. I think that is why Otani's hate speech is not strongly criticized by Japanese citizon. We don't wants be castrated in the prison like he said. I only like Super Dollfies as models. What's the crime?

Thanks. Kotoba Mamoru 11:54, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear 210.17.192.133, Thanks for your correcting my words. If you want, please correct the topic more. You may modify every words. If you can not understand what I wrote. Please ask me here.

Thanks. Kotoba Mamoru 17:57, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear 70.48.248.29, Thanks for your correcting. :-) I have to study English more... Kotoba Mamoru 11:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear 70.49.109.102, Thanks for your correcting. I think that this article is better than Japanese edition now. :-) Unfortunately, the person who seems that the woman of Otaku who is a radical feminist has destroyed a Japanese version of this article. This person is contributing like attacking man's Otaku. There might have been a content at which it let them angry. I am reflecting in the respect. However, I think that woman's Otaku and man's Otaku in Japan are doing happily. Because there is woman's Otaku in my web community to discuss this social phenomenon. I believe the article shall be reborn better though I will not repair the article on the Japanese version. When that time comes, I also add sentences to this article. Please help to mend the grammars of sentences again.

Thank you really. 古鳥羽護 Kotoba Mamoru 13:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Confusing translation
This line is confusing:

...literally "figure budding tribe", or, closer to the true meaning, "Action Figure Gang of Budding Fetishists"...

I don't know much about Japanese, but there are two things I can point out.


 * 1) Would I be correct in guessing that "figure" refers to collectible models such as ones like these and not ones intended as posable toys?  If so, "figurine" would be a better term.
 * 2) "Budding" is a very confusing translation for "moe". Even if it is correct literally, moe in this context refers to a form of affection rather than any physical budding.

So then I'd suggest these as less confusing translations for figure moe zoku: "figurine moe tribe", "figurine lover tribe", "figurine lover gang" Ziiv 07:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

More Biases!
The actual description of figure moe zoku is heavily outweighed by lists and discussions of serial killers accused of being them. Who here's got such a huge bias against these people? Someone embellish the positive aspects more, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.147.228.234 (talk) 19:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Serious problems
This article has some serious problems with it. For starters, what is the article about? Is it about the term, the figure collecting subculture, or criminals who have been labeled as "otaku"? The articles doesn't make it clear what it is talking about, although it is heavy weighted on the latter. And because of that possible undue weight, it leave a negative impression about the Japanese otaku subculture. And if it is the latter, then it definitely needs to be renamed.

There is also massive problems with sourcing as whole sections do not have a single source, but makes negative comments about living people. That's a clear WP:BLP violation right there. Other information appear to be displaced and should go into their respective articles instead, such as Akihiro Otani. The fact that much of the content of this articles is pulled form a series of unrelated sources indicates a synthesis is occurring to advance a position. --Farix (Talk) 02:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Moe
"The term "moe" is Otaku slang for the love of, or fetish for, characters in video games, anime or manga"

As one can see here, the definition of moe is not settled on in Wikipedia and seems to have multiple definitions. Giving a definition here is misleading... For the time being, I think the page should just link to moe and not give its own definition. 24.137.120.159 (talk) 02:32, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

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