Talk:Film gris

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Hmm, interesting but could do with the names of some films that are examples of genre. Cdh1984 (talk) 07:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

WorldCat Genres
Maximilianklein (talk) 23:28, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Definitions
Although Andersen's definition of "film gris" is the most often cited, Charles Higham, Joel Greenberg and John Tuska use this term as well, but in a different sense. This should be worked into the article. James Naremore's book on noir gives a good overview on the subject. – Robert Kerber (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Ambiguity in Distinction from Film Noir
In the list of characteristics, the pessimistic worldview and social message are clearly connected to the intended leftist critique. However, the connection between this agenda and a femme fatale with more obvious intentions is less obvious. Does the femme fatale act as a stand-in for social ills? Is she, too, a victim of circumstance? Both are plausible, but may serve different messages, and a reader would need to already be familiar with the subject to know which is more typical. Furthermore, the term "audience identification" seems ambiguous; further elaboration on both subjects from someone more familiar with the genre would be an asset. DLMacLeod (talk) 20:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC)