Talk:Final Exit Network

Controversy & POV
What does this mean, "candidates are not suicidal". If candidates wish to die, even if their reasons are based on very real physical suffering, aren't they still suicidal? I think this needs to be reworded or deleted.

This should include some of the ethical controversy about Final Exit. It is a biased article. 67.244.32.123 (talk) 08:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed & have tagged it. With all the media attention, it should be relatively easy to call attention to that. Plenty of sources out there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.57.26.70 (talk)


 * I edited the article and believe it's unbiased now. I'd like to remove the POV tag for now.  What do you think?  Ewick12 (talk) 07:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Since I've received no opposition, I have removed the POV tag. Feel free to put it back in if you think the article is biased. Ewick12 (talk) 20:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

-- There is insufficient description of the process by which individuals seek "compassionate presence" services from Final Exit Network. I personally support Final Exit Network and I do not shy away from the fact of the various legal actions. For those who experience that comfort of having a knowledgeable person ease their suffering this service will often be seen as a real God send - bringing peace and comfort where there was pain and suffering. Please suggest wording and let's move on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dignity at end of life (talk • contribs) 21:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Controversy & POV Revisited
I have replaced the POV tag. As examples, "intolerable," "successful," "compassionate," "self deliverance," and "not suicidal" are all weighted words or phrases designed, in context, to promote the validity of suicide as an ethical choice. The encyclopedia should not join in that promotion, but should instead restate such a position as the belief of the FEN. Moreover, I do not believe the previous issues, such as the absence of a discussion of the ethical controversy, have been addressed. Matjamoe (talk) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The phrase "compassionate support" seems to be a deliberate attempt to avoid using the word assistance as assisting suicide is illegal in most states. TimL &bull; talk 21:51, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Not sure how I feel about the necessity of the discussion of an ethical controversy on this page. I'm assuming the ethics discussion would be regarding assisted suicide, which I don't think belongs on this page; I've added a link to assisted suicide in the first sentence of the article and that should suffice. If there's a controversy regarding how Final Exit aids its clients in committing this act, then that's another story, but as it stands, the "discussion of an ethical controversy" needs to be clarified before it should be considered for inclusion in the article. Amphy (talk) 02:22, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ETA: I reread the other comments and while I think there should be some mention regarding any controversy around Final Exit beyond the two cases mentioned in the article, it'll need to be backed up by a lot of credible sources. Anyone have any? Then building a controversy section can begin. Amphy (talk) 02:25, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The POV tag should remain on this article. It is rife with extraneous text and NPV problems; needs help.Pdx97217 (talk) 00:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I've rewritten the introductory section to be more neutral. Hopefully this will allow the POV tag to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piano Concerto in F Minor (talk • contribs) 13:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

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