Talk:Final Fantasy XI character classes

Article rationale
Following a review of Final Fantasy character class articles the suggestion has been put forward to create this list article to hold class information specific to FFXI, given its specialised nature in relation to other games in the series. The plan is to move the FFXI-specific information currently residing in the the various class articles and the main Final Fantasy character classes list and bring it here. >Gamemaker 13:33, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I already left a similar note on the project page but I wanted to say also here that I really appreciate your starting this page. I'll be making tweaks to it based on changes that I have been working on to the character class descriptions before the whole move was suggested; please let me know if there's any problems with my changes.  I had come up with a "template" of sorts as a guideline to the information that should be included in each class, to aid in cutting out the excess information that people will inevitably come along to edit in about their favorite class.  To help people other than myself watch out for needless information (although believe me, this will be on my watchlist and monitored closely), the basic outline for each job that I'm using is:


 * Character class (wikilink to either job specific article or to the class's section on the Final Fantasy character classes list): Brief summary of job (mage/melee/support). Weapons proficiency.  Notable abilities (restricted to the one or two most important facets of the job); notable traits.  2-hour ability.  In rare cases, extra info needed to describe the job (notably Summoner, Ninja, and Thief since they take some explaining).


 * A problem encountered repeatedly when this information was on the main FFXI article was that people didn't understand that Wiki is not a game guide and would add in endless amounts of fancruft about their favorite job. I would like to ask anyone keeping an eye out for this article to make sure that any changes made to the format I've prepared are really necessary. -RaCha&#39;ar 18:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Sounds like you have some good plans for the article. I just finished transferring the basic info from the existing class articles and added a pointer to here from the 'parent' Final Fantasy character classes list, so feel free to update as you see fit =) I suppose during the update of the disperate class articles that the FFXI info can be phased out or highly summarised, whatever works best. >Gamemaker 23:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Whew!
Finally finished transferring everything over from my Word document of "improvements" (maybe). I need some help Wikifying the article, like adding reference links which I can't figure out how to do for the life of me. The article's definitely not done yet but I feel a whole lot better for having it almost ready. -RaCha&#39;ar 00:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I've put some basic wiki markup back in, on skill/trait names, mainly. Not sure about references off the top of my head, but there's refs galore in Mythology of Final Fantasy X - have a look there for a working example. >Gamemaker 15:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Puppetmaster
Same deal here as with the main article. I am adding this now to help stave off the invasion any second now of excited fans updating the news. I will add a link to the playonline website about the job as soon as it's available. -RaCha&#39;ar 04:41, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Unreleased Jobs
Should we really be listing the ToAU jobs among the others that are currently playable? -RaCha&#39;ar 04:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll add in that they aren't actually available yet, but it would be a good place to put sourced info -- CHANLORD [T]/[C] [[Image:Flag of Australia.svg|25px| ]] 05:25, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

ToAU Jobs
As I no longer play FFXI I don't have the information to write up descriptions for the new jobs in the format that's been established on this page for the other jobs. Please, if you do still play and want to contribute, look at the short descriptions for the jobs that are already on this page and add information along the same format. Remember that Wikipedia is not a game guide and try to keep it short and sweet. :) -RaCha&#39;ar 17:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Just want to re-emphasize this, since only a few hours after I posted this someone went and crufted up Corsair. Please follow the format, pretty please? -RaCha&#39;ar 22:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio
I removed several large edits made by 69.177.185.12 who copied directly from Allakhazam's job entries. I've left a note on his talk page about this and his edits to the main FFXI article, but I wanted to leave a heads-up here as well. -RaCha&#39;ar 22:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Subjobs
I don't think the recently added subjob information is necessary. It's very GameFAQs-esque and not encyclopedic. I'm open to discussion, however. -RaCha&#39;ar 17:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Recent edits
I'm beginning to get the feeling that this and the Final Fantasy XI article are posted at Allakhazam or Killing Ifrit or something for all the edits we're getting lately. We welcome new editors, but PLEASE read WP:NOT, especially WP:NOT. I really don't want this to become a 3RR problem but we cannot have all of this game guide info in this article. Thank you. -RaCha&#39;ar 12:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

FFXIclopedia
Question: why is this page taken from FFXIclopedia if that wiki does not have its own page here? It receives more traffic than this wiki, has been recognized by square enix, and become the top ranked FFXI site period. All those criteria suggest notability, and credibility. So why is FFXiclopedia shunned while other things like the lostpedia have their own pages filled with information, when they aren't quite as reputable or popular as FFXIclopedia. Squallleon 10:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)