Talk:Finckenstein coat of arms

Finck von Roggenhausen
 * FINCKE vel Vincke 02.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.36.20 (talk) 09:34, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

"The family coat of arms shows two golden half moons turned away of each other, dominated by a golden star on blue background. On the helmet with blue-golden coat the half moons and the star. Family saying: "Sub Utraque Duce" (under the guidance each and both); „under the guidance of the star, both half moons we will stand together in good and bad times“."Finkpal (talk) 20:42, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

A diet held by Charlemagne in 777 in Paderborn sealed the submission of the Saxons. Among those attending the diet had been some Arab emissaries from northern Spain who sought Charles's aid in their uprising against the Umayyad amir of Córdoba. In the summer of 778 Charles advanced into Spain and laid siege to Saragossa, without, however, being able to take the city. Retreating across the Pyrenees, the Frankish army was badly mauled by the Basques. Roland, warden of the Breton march, who died on this occasion, was later immortalized in legend and poetry. There was a two generals leading the two armies at Zaragoza, the first general was named Elnis by Charlemagne nominated in Saxony, and the second Sfinckh embedded in the Alemany. The coat of arms reflect two armies Elnis of Saxony and Sfinckha of Alemania as crescents and Charles the Great as the star on a blue background that reflects the color of the manor of Zaragoza. Finkpal (talk) 23:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Chronicle 778 AD
The Carolingian Chronicle 778 AD

The Lord King Charles marched to Spain by two different routes.’ One was by Pamplona, which the great king himself took as far as Saragossa. To Saragossa came his men from Burgundy, Austrasia, Bavaria, as well as Provence and Septimania, and a part of the Lom¬bards. Arriving from two sides the armies united at Saragossa. The king received hostages from ibn al-Arabi and Abu Taher and many Saracens, destroyed Pamplona, and subjugated the Spanish Basques and the people of Navarre. Then he returned to Francia.

On the heights of the Pyrenees the Basques prepared an ambush, attacked the rearguard, and threw the whole army into confusion. Although the Franks were obviously their betters in arms and valor, they nevertheless suffered a defeat due to the unfavorable terrain and the unequal method of fighting. In this engagement a great many officers of the palace, whom the king had given positions of command, were killed; the baggage was plundered, and the enemy was able to vanish in all directions because he knew the lay of the land. To have suffered this wound shadowed the king’s view of his success in Spain. Finkpal (talk) 00:48, 17 August 2011 (UTC)