Talk:Finder (comics)

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AlainV - I replaced your edit--


 * McNeil's spin-off series or sub-series (they are still numbered within the Finder progression when they are first issued) are Mystery Date and Talisman. They follow the life of two other characters in the same world as Finder.

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 * McNeil's spin-off series Mystery Date follows the life of another character in the same world as Finder.

The thing is, the first two issues of Mystery Date were issued as Mystery Date #1 and #2, not Finder #anything - that's why I described it as a spin-off series. Those two haven't been collected yet. The third part of the story did appear in the main series, as Finder #31, but I'm not sure how to explain that in the article without being really confusing. As for "Talisman", the only thing that distinguishes it from the other named story arcs is that it's narrated by Marcie rather than Jaeger ... but Jaeger appears even less in "Dream Sequence". Sorry about the nit-picking... --Hob 06:43, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * Speaking of which, should someone create a Mystery Date entry? I haven't gotten my paws on all of it yet, so I can't. FZ 15:47, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Oh yeah, also when I added the reference to Le Guin, Delany, and cyberpunk, I was thinking of content - Le Guin & Delany for the sociology/anthropology element & the focus on sexual and family roles; cyberpunk for the role of digital technology & the media, and the somewhat anarchic & dangerous atmosphere. I don't think there's any way to lump those 2 writers and 1 genre together in terms of "textual style". --Hob 06:51, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Finally: Old horror comics, really? Hmm. Example? --Hob 06:52, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Our esteemed artist explained herself the visual influence of old horror comics in an interview by Stuart Nathan for 9th art, posted on the Web at http://www.ninthart.com/display.php?article=254 In the same interview she also notes the separate origin of Mystery Date, at first, but then talks of her intention to integrate all of it within the series, which she is in the process of doing, having Finder 31 as a new Mystery date story. I will find another way of stating the "out of series" nature of the Talisman arc, after having reread the many Web based interviews and the three issues of Talisman. AlainV 22:48, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * OK, write whatever you think is right (and what you said about Mystery Date continuing in #31 is exactly what I just said above), but I'm still confused as to why you think "Talisman" is a special case in any way: all of the story arcs so far have been published as separate TPBs, and the characters in Talisman aren't at all separate from the rest of the series. As for the horror comics, I think the reference would need more context to be clear - unlike the Moebius influence, it's not really a connection you can understand just by looking at the art, without the explanation she gives in the interview. --Hob 00:35, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I will read a lot more of the originals before I set the three issue Talisman apart again. Which will take some time, because I have not yet found a sure way of buying the other issues (The local customs staff were horrible in the process of getting the few I have through the Internet and the mail) apart from watching the author's future trips to comics fair so I can buy them in situ, when they coincide with one of my vacation trips. I am still wondering how to phrase or explain in a very concise manner the context or creepy ambiance of those old horror comics. It seems to me that to blance or justify such an explantion there should also be an explantion of the ligne claire in Moebius and the mastery of movement and implied human (or monster) movement which he shares with Carla Speed Mc Neil. AlainV 02:35, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * Oy, Canadian customs and comic books - yeah, I've heard about some problems there. Good luck!  --Hob 06:30, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hi. I added a scan of the Talisman GN for illustration purposes. Couldn't find my copy of the first one, so there you go. Hope I did everything right, this was my first wikipedia image. :)  Airosche 07:14, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

move to Finder (comics) ?
ChrisGriswold "moved Finder (comic) to Finder (comic book series) .." and then "moved Finder (comic book series) to Finder (comic book): WP:CMC naming conventions)." However, at the moment WP:NCCom (Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comics)) says: "Conventions to use (I omited conventions 3 and 4 because I as far as I can tell "Finder (comics)" doesn't lead to ambiguity) My interpretation of WP:NCCom is that the Finder article should be at "Finder (comics). What do others think? --EarthFurst 22:29, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Use the name itself (e.g. Green Arrow) unless that leads to ambiguity, in which case...
 * 2) Follow with "(comics)" (e.g. Love and Rockets (comics)) unless that leads to ambiguity, (........)"
 * Agreed, the article should be at Finder (comics). -- Vary | Talk 03:30, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

recent changes
Hey folks, this is Squinky too 02:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC) and also the loquacious 71.194.87.128  and 68.73.242.60. I hope I didn't change too much (or change it too dilletantishly) but much of what I changed this time is what I wrote last time as 68.73.242.60. That thing with the hardcover may not be the classiest visual arrangement ever, but listing the publications by story order instead of publication format seems to make more sense. Crappy thing is that "Volume 3" in the series now comes right after the hardcover "Book One." Lemme try one other fix, and see if it works ...

There. Fixed it I think, plus lotsa goodies. Does it stick? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.87.128 (talk) 04:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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Folks, I just attacked the page again - The opening sections seemed too dry (see, the economic system is like this, and incidentally Carla's business model is...) so I tried to move everything until after the characters section if it couldn't be related more to the story. I don't think one has to get POV to edit the piece with an eye to wanting to bring out what's so damned cool about Finder and to draw people in. The "Authenticity and freedom" thing may be my emphasis, that's perfect to change (as everything is, obviously) but I did want to bring out reasons why the sci-fi setting, the aborigines, the clans, etc, are interesting to the story, so that section wouldn't read to non-fans like flight-deck schematics of the 'Enterprise'. With Rachel's mounting discoveries of how privileged she is in A Voice, I don't think we can discuss the clan system without reference to the basic themes of the cities being really injust and everyplace being really dangerous, with people who don't really see it because, after all, do we? I separated the themes section since having it before we meet the characters doesn't make sense and makes the comic sound like a disease-of-the-week special. Themes that come up in the characters and settings sections could reasonably be re-introduced in the themes section which is a bit thin, but they shouldn't, I think, be removed from the characters and settings sections.

Okay, I edited bold like they told me to, though I don't think I removed any information that I didn't move somewhere else. I hope I didn't offend, and happy editing or reverting (please no!) or whatever. :^) Squinky too (talk) 01:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC) 01:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

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