Talk:Fintan of Clonenagh

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the reference listed here has 2 st. fintans, and neither of their dates match that in this article.according to this encyclopaedia, fintan of clonenagh died no later than 597.Toyokuni3 (talk) 16:56, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sperber's article mentions more than two. She writes (p. 37) "The probable explanation is that all these different Fintans are simply echoes of different population-groups making claims on Clonenagh". She explicitly links the two CE Saints Fintan. Just one saint, lots of traditions. Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * that's all very well, but do you really want to list a reference that contradicts the assertions in the aricle? the death dates are clearly not  the same for fintan of clonenagh. moreover, where the hell is 'maryborough, queen's county'? sounds like an old name for an ulster county, but it says 'what is now etc. etc.'. overall, i just think we/you could find a better reference than the catholic encyclopaedia in this case. regards, Toyokuni3 (talk) 21:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Indeed, the Catholic Encyclopedia stuff needs to go as soon as possible; it's rarely reliable on early Ireland, and certainly not here. Sperber's article in Offaly, Laois & Leinster (Queen's County was Laois) would make a good start. As well as the commentary it includes a translation of a Latin life. There's also some material in Ó Cróinín's Early Medieval Ireland (178-9), his Prehistoric and early Ireland (193, 197, 325, 881, plus more on Clonenagh) and Charles-Edwards' Early Christian Ireland (4, 116-8). I do have material to redo this, but I won't have the time this week. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:58, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * i should have said,'sounds like a sasanach name'. Toyokuni3 (talk) 03:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)