Talk:Fireman Sam

Change of surname
Sam's brother Charlie's surname is referred to as Jones and as Peyton in different places on this page. A quick google search gets hits for both Sam Jones and Sam Peyton as the main character's name. Did this change between series? In the new series the twins' surname is definitely Jones, which would (presumably) make Charlie and Sam Joneses as well. I don't recall any direct mentions of Sam's surname in any of the series, though. 90.213.11.150 (talk) 18:34, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Random discussion
Why was there no police or ambulance services in the T.V. series?
 * Have you not seen "Fireman Sam meets Policeman Sam" or "Fireman Sam versus Paramedic Sam"? HAHA. But really they don't seem to need them. No one gets hurt and the only 'criminal' is Norman.

The song on the other page, the one about Arson Sam, however funny, is not the correct song. Perhaps Wikipedia could create a database for funny parodies etc? Or arseon arseon Sam eh?86.138.91.232 17:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

New Series
The new series has been broadcast and translated into several different languages, and is available on DVD. "The original series still remains the most popular"

This is opinion and needs a citation to provide evidence. I've added a tag to the text Steve-Ho 18:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

The reference to firefighter Penny Morris being gay, while funny, is unsubstantiated and removed. Remember children also research their favourite TV programs with Wikipedia.

What difference does children reading wikipedia make? If it's wrong it's wrong. 86.10.81.54 (talk) 22:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Were is there any reference or evidence in the series to substansiate the claim mentioned above? Answer knowhere. --Come On You Stags (talk) 18:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Voice
From the article:
 * The series comprised 32 10-minute episodes and a 20-minute Christmas special. The narration and character voices were done by John Alderton

Did he do the Welsh or English version, or both? boffy_b 16:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * He did the English language one. I can't remember who did the Welsh one, but will find out - I'm currently working on the Fireman Sam website. --Irregular Shed 11:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

That would be Gareth Lewis. --Anonymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.241.106 (talk) 07:24, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Theme Tune
Tri400 added : The Fireman Sam theme song is virtually a copy of the 80's hit song - Everybody Wants to Rule The World by Tears for Fears. Since this song was released in 1985 and Fireman Sam started broadcasting in 1987.

I can't see the similarity myself, certainly not to the extent of claiming one to be a virtual copy of the other. I think this should be removed. What do other people think? --Umbriel 04:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

WP
Who is WP?86.151.139.98 17:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC) Wp? What are you talking about?81.132.69.35 17:02, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Fireman Sam logo.jpg
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Mike Collins
The popular comicbook artist Mike Collins (Judge Dredd, Batman, Doctor Who) did a lot of artistic work on the new series. I'm not sure if this is note-worthy or not, nor if the fact that Mike is quite proud of his work and frequently wears his Fireman Sam "Crew" T-shirt to comic cons is worth commenting on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.142.215 (talk) 08:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Episode list
What is the source of the episode list? I bought the DVD box set. It has 32 episodes: all those currently listed but the Christmas special. The order is different, though, and some episodes have slightly different names on the packaging.

The following is the order they're presented on the DVDs, with the titles shown on the packaging.

DVD 1, titled "Norman's Tricky Day":  The Kite Barn Fire Trevor's Training Flat Tyre Lost Cat Norman's Tricky Day Camping Telly Trouble</li> </ol>

DVD 2, titled "Treasure Hunt": <ol> <li>Treasure Hunt</li> <li>Sam's Day Off</li> <li>Thief in Pontypandy</li> <li>Chemistry Set</li> <li>Safe With Sam</li> <li>Wishing Well</li> <li>Sam – the Great Inventor</li> <li>Dilys' Forgetful Day</li> </ol>

DVD 3, titled "A Spot of Bother": <ol> <li>A Spot of Bother</li> <li>Halloween</li> <li>Norman's Pitfall</li> <li>Lost Ring</li> <li>All in Good Cause</li> <li>Brass Band</li> <li>Lost in the Fog</li> <li>Bentley the Robot</li> </ol>

DVD 4, titled "Rich and Famous": <ol> <li>Home From Rome</li> <li>Rich and Famous</li> <li>Quarry Rescue</li> <li>Deep Trouble</li> <li>Trevor's Boot Sale</li> <li>What Goes Up</li> <li>Steele Under Par</li> <li>Distaster for Dinner</li> </ol>

I wonder if these four sets of eight episodes correspond with the four series, or if they've been mixed up?

Trem (talk) 18:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I doubt that anybody who monitors this page really knows the original source. This page has been repeatedly targeted by subtle vandals and I've tried to keep the dreck out, but given the lack of reliable sources online, it's only a little better than guesswork.  I suspect the TV.com list forms the basis, but have no clue where the air dates come from.  If the BBC Programme Catalog was still alive, it would be possible, if tedious, to check them, but even that avenue has been closed.  I'd be inclined to drop the season designations until somebody finds a good source for air dates and just present the titles in the order from the DVDs.
 * Majorclanger (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that they were mixed up but they might
 * be older episodes when it was stop motion not animation JINJRDISCUSSES (talk) 11:46, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

My son is a big Firman Sam fan, I have the entire new animated series on my DVR, and since I noticed this page doesnt have the episode list of that season, I added it. 2 days later, I noticed it was removed, arguably by mistake, is there a way to avoid such thing from happening again? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tzur21 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Sam's Garden
I removed this section from the "Sam's Residence" portion of the article. The garden--and someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong--is actually behind the fire station. My evidence for this: in the episode where the kids create their own neighborhood watch, Mandy asks Station Officer Steele "Then you won't mind if we use the shed behind the fire station for our headquarters?" Also, in the episode where Bella gets a new pizza oven, Elvis and Sam are together in the garden at one point while on duty, leading me to believe that the garden must be near the fire station. (Yes, I know--that last bit is OR of the worst kind, but the first part is from the series itself.) What do you think? Also, shouldn't we have a section about the firehouse itself? We have a piece about nearly every other location in Pontypandy--why not the firehouse? (And also, mountain rescue, for that matter.) GJC 01:14, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Your both right and wrong, in the old series you could be right, but in the newest series, the garden is in Sam's backyard. --94.15.102.124 (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

New Series (2009)
There is a new series of Fireman Sam airing at the moment on one of the sattalite kids channels.

There seems to be some differences between this and the other series. For example Bella is no longer in this series instead there is a wholefish cafe.

Other changes include:

Sam has a brother who is a fisherman, Sarah and James' mum is in this series, Penney also drives a lifeboat that is bassed on the quayside (she is now apparently a trainned coastguard as well)

The way in which the series is for want of a better word animated is different as well it is sort of more computer game style as seen here http://www.cartoonito.co.uk/shows/firemansam

--Come On You Stags (talk) 15:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Bella in 2008 - 2009 series
A while ago, I am very sure I saw Bella in the 2008 - 2009 series or in fact I did see her, I forgot the episode name, but it has got to do something with Mandy's birthday party, the same one was on the older series.

--90.196.206.184 (talk) 10:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 February 2012
I think it should be requested that the fact that Firefighter Penny Morris is a vegetarian be added somewhere in the section about her within the Firefighters section on Pontypandy residents.

Punkyfish3000 (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The protection has now been reduced to semiprotection so you can make the change yourself. Tra (Talk) 17:29, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request: IREF EIXT is not FIRE EXIT in Welsh.
The section on Bingles Department Store contains a factual innacuracy.

Allanfa dân is the Welsh for Fire Exit. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/allanfa_d%C3%A2n

IREF EIXT is simply an anagram of FIRE EXIT. Yes, if you search the web you will find several references to IREF EIXT being the Welsh for FIRE EXIT. They are all wind-ups, wrong, deliberate misinformation. The letter X is not even in the Welsh alphabet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_orthography — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.208.45 (talk) 03:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Lead section
The lead section mentions a new series being shown, but doesn't mention when it started etc. 194.28.125.14 (talk) 01:22, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

About Bella Rosa and Dusty
Do bella rosa and dusty appear and return in Season 9? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.22.17 (talk) 18:13, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Ending
Please tell me this series isn't ending.

Do we have firm evidence from the makers of this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.229.157 (talk) 15:00, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Bella Rosa and Dusty in Season 9
Does Season 9 feature Bella, Rosa and/or Dusty? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.111.196 (talk) 19:37, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

New logo
We found a new logo in this link: Take a look!

New logo
We found a new logo in this link: Take a look! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.81.152 (talk) 03:32, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Welsh article.
The Welsh article for this is woefully small...--Somchai Sun (talk) 17:26, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Claims of cancellation
Some IP editors, keep saying that the series has been cancelled. I cannot find any proof to these claims. Please consider locking the page to IP editors. Thank you! --ACase0000 (talk) 03:30, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Even after the temporary protection the vandalism continues. To anyone wanting to add the claim it has been cancelled or not airing please add to this discussion with relevant trustworthy citations. If not it may have to be requested to be put under protection again. Voello (talk) 02:36, 25 August 2018 (UTC)