Talk:Firing of Shirley Sherrod

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 * 1) I rephrased the first sentence to avoid it being so disjointed
 * 2) I removed the first footnote about time because it made no sense
 * 3) I moved the additional information contained in the second footnote ("15 seconds") into the article and removed the unnecessary footnote.5.151.178.168 (talk) 00:00, 12 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I've restored the first footnote. It made sense to me, so that explanation is not sufficient. No problem with the other changes. Grayfell (talk) 00:06, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Footnote
A footnote is being used thus:


 * On July 19, 2010, two different video clips [A]
 * A.^ Video excerpt's precise length: 02 minutes, 38 seconds.[76]

Unfortunately, this obviously doesn't make any sense. The text refers to "two different video clips", as you'll notice if you read the text, while the footnote refers in an incomplete sentence to "Video excerpt's precise length", which you'll notice is singular. And yet, someone claims that the footnote "makes sense". I find that rather astonishing. Perhaps someone else would like to give their thoughts. 5.151.178.168 (talk) 00:11, 12 August 2016 (UTC)


 * So anytime I try and respond, you're going to start a new discussion pretending I don't exist? Okay, but it's pretty obvious what's going on.
 * The discrepancy between one clip and two is not such a massive problem that it couldn't be resolved. I've updated the source and adjusted the wording to make it clear the time is the total of all clips. The source says A conservative blog posts 2 minutes, 38 seconds of video clips of a black federal agriculture official saying... which seems clear enough. The formatting is unusual, but is there any other problem with the content? Grayfell (talk) 00:28, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Should be linked to "fake news"
I have yet to read the official article about "fake news" so I don't know the official title of it, but I assume that it exists.

Came upon this article and it seems to me a substantive and early instance of such fake news. So... I am suggesting a link, at the least in a "See Also" section. Jason Brown 09:11, 11 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angryredplanet (talk • contribs)

Requested move 5 February 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Andrewa (talk) 21:10, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Firing of Shirley Sherrod → Resignation of Shirley Sherrod – This article was moved without discussion in January 2015. In fact as sources show, she resigned. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 02:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Characterization as firing is supported by sources; e.g.:
 * Politico: Says both "fired Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod" and "Sherrod was forced to resign"
 * Washington Post: refers to "firing of Shirley Sherrod" in headline; notes that "the USDA hastily asked Sherrod to resign" in body of article
 * New York Times: refers to Sherrod as "Fired Official" in headline; says "Shirley Sherrod, the black Agriculture Department official whose firing..." in first sentence of article; later on in article refers to "Ms. Sherrod’s forced resignation..."
 * Given all this, "Firing" is both brief and accurate. Neutralitytalk 05:32, 5 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - "Firing" is the sensationalist term used by media in their headlines to attract your attention, before they accurately explain what really happened. "Resignation" is even less accurate, as it implies the decision was Sherrod's.  "Forced resignation" would be the accurate term if any change is to be made; otherwise we should keep it as "Firing", which sacrifices some accuracy for brevity but is close enough in a practical sense. Xenophrenic (talk) 14:22, 5 February 2017 (UTC)


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