Talk:First Avenue (nightclub)

merge proposal
Discussion is on Talk:7th Street Entry. Natalie 16:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

They both have there own historys. I have gone to both for years. Linking them as they are now works great. Lets leave it as is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.220.211 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC).


 * So does 75.72.220.211 in all honesty believe that The Entry would merit its own Wikipedia article (and be able to fend off subsequent AfD nominations) if it had stood there all by its lonesome? — M URGH  disc.  01:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with Murgh. They are physically inseparable, and neither is article is in danger of becoming too long. I believe that The Entry + The Mainroom = First Avenue. Sam murschel (talk) 16:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I also agree with Murgh and Sam. If you look at First Avenue's website, you can see that First Avenue and 7th Street Entry are both mentioned. (There is not a separate website for 7th Street entry.) As far as I know, they have always been owned by the same people and 7th street entry seems to be a glorified name for a room connected onto First Avenue. --ElishaEp (talk) 00:05, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Since the consensus seems to be to merge the two pages together, I will go ahead and do that within the week. --ElishaEp (talk) 04:59, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Merged 7th street entry with first avenue under name username 75.72.32.5 --ElishaEp (talk) 02:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Clean up Article

 * This article may need to be cleaned of hyperbole, and generally worded a little more professionally. This is an important landmark for Minneapolitans like myself, but I think it could stand to be tweaked.

71.215.197.187 (talk) 17:09, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree that First Avenue is a significant part of Minneapolis' culture and deserves to have a Wikipedia article presented with integrity. Some writing was embellished to the point where it read as shameless promotion. I cleaned it up! Oneequalsone

Does anyone have any input in the 7th Street Entry section? Was it really a coatroom and is the trivia relevant and factual to the article? --ElishaEp (talk) 02:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Found information that it was a cafe. Not sure if it was a coatroom so I took out that fact. --ElishaEp (talk) 03:10, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Adding Sections

 * I think a section about First Avenue's commitment to independence against national concert promotion conglomerates would be appropriate if it can be sourced. Sam murschel (talk) 16:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I would like to organize the information by making sections to separate the intro from the history, and write a little more about the closing and re-opening. Would it be appropriate to add another section and write some more about Fingerhut, McClellan, Meyers and Frank? Al Swenson (talk) 04:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I also agree that there should be separate sections. I think that you could offer more information about the following people that you mentioned but try to make sure that you do not stray far from the main topic, First Avenue. I personally feel that just having a brief section on the owners and managers would suffice instead of adding "mini bios" on them. This way one would not have the temptation to stray to far from the topic. --ElishaEp (talk) 23:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * There should be a section on the history, the closing and re-opening would be a good sub-heading under the history section. I would like to add a section about Notable Events possibly? --ElishaEp (talk) 23:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * ElishaEp, I agree that the information discussing Fingerhut and the others I mentioned earlier seems sufficient. Al Swenson (talk) 04:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Pictures
Anyone know of any pictures we can use, maybe for the history or bands? Al Swenson (talk) 04:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Maybe someone can go downtown and take some pictures of First Ave to post on the article. It seems like quite a process to use others photos. However, I do feel like pictures would be a wonderful addition. Perhaps one of us could tackle the steps and get a old picture of the club on here. Kmajchrzak (talk) 23:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Adding a picture of the wall of stars that is outside the venue would be beneficial since that is one of the first things you see at First Ave. ctkach

I am going to First Avenue this weekend to take photos. I will look for important stars on the wall as well. oneequalsone —Preceding undated comment added 19:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC).


 * Thanks oneequalsone. Joe Cocker would be a good one. Al Swenson (talk) 21:14, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

U2
Hi, nice work on this article. Can someone remind me if U2 recorded parts of October at First Avenue? Seems worth mentioning maybe. Jim Walsh doesn't know. Martin Keller would, if there is a source. -SusanLesch (talk) 04:51, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And there it is. -SusanLesch (talk) 05:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

F1rst Wrestling
Just curious if anyone has anymore information reagrding F1rst Wrestling? To me is doesn't seem appropriate to be in the Productions section and also it seems to be one of the many events that First Avenue holds. Maybe move the information or delete it? Any suggestions? --75.72.32.5 (talk) 04:22, 15 December 2009 (UTC)(ElishaEp)

Rename?
Would anyone object if I renamed this First Avenue (nightclub)? This really should be a disambiguation page, and not go to one of the numerous and less well known uses of "First Avenue". ScottyBerg (talk) 18:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello? I'll rename in a few days if no one objects. ScottyBerg (talk) 21:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Mudhoney
Can anyone tell me what other bands played with Mudhoney on 6/6/95 and 6/7/95 at First Ave.???? DavejHansen1975 (talk) 23:38, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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Disco?
"Psychedelic rock was out and disco was in." Given that this is about the year 1972, I agree with the first half of the sentence, but not the second, by at least four years. Kanderso (talk) 16:21, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Hauntings section removed, correction
I removed the paragraph with a section name Hauntings because it belongs in a Trivia section (WP:TRIVIA). Preserved here if anyone needs it. Also, a correction. My edit summary is wrong. Riemenschneider does indeed talk about Skip Goucher. I apologize for the error. However, people interested really ought to read Riemenschneider's book. I've cut Goucher and the Hefflefingers because it takes too much space to explain their historical roles only to see them drop out. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:09, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * in one sentence. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

American Avents
This unusual spelling (American Avents) is correct. Now we know thanks to 66.74.136.13. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Sources needed
We need a source for the following paragraph which I commented out under the Entry. I don't doubt it's true but do not have a copy of Noran's book. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC) "Several recordings have been recorded live at The Entry, including The Scouting Report's hit song 'Over the Ocean'; Hüsker Dü's first album, Land Speed Record; the song, 'Cables,' on Big Black's Atomizer album; Rifle Sport's live album, Live at the Entry, Dead at the Exit; and Motion City Soundtrack's, Commit This to Memory live DVD." I moved out two paragraphs in the History section that are completely unsourced. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

The name change to First Avenue did not affect the club's growing popularity. During the 1980s, local artist Prince helped put it at the forefront of Minneapolis music venues by using it as the location for many scenes in his movie Purple Rain, while also recording the song "Purple Rain" and other songs from the movie and Purple Rain album live at the club in 1983. The club's appearance in the film brought it national recognition and the venue soon found itself a tourist attraction. As the decade progressed, the reliance on popular and progressive DJ dance nights continued, including weekly theme nights featuring breakdance culture ("Break It Up" and "Electric Energy"), the exploding funk and raps scenes ("More Funk" aka "MF") in the main room and House/rave music ("House Nation Under A Groove") in the Entry. Other theme nights were "Sex-O-Rama," "Club Degenerate," "Club 2-4-1" "Depth Probe," the all-ages "Sunday Night Dance Party" (SNDP), and the "air guitar" performance series, "Great Pretenders". Relatively more mainstream and mixed-genre dance nights held down Friday and Saturday nights ("Danceteria," "No Creeps" and others).

After the club's twentieth anniversary in 1990, national attention increased, with mentions in magazines such as Rolling Stone and Time. Around this time, there was an increased interest in DJs and electronic dance music, and the VIP Lounge on the second level was unveiled, featuring DJs and personalities.

History
Hello. User:Oneilc01 added partisan, unreferenced history which has been reverted. A new page is about the history of First Avenue (not yet indexed at the Internet Archive) that was copied into our article. That page ends with a pretty sloppy, "Type your paragraph here." -SusanLesch (talk) 21:44, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Also sloppy, a reprint from the vanity press Artful Living in 2018 cuts off the "Sponsored" tag at the top. This website is not a reliable source per WP:RS. I sent Rolling Stone a heads up about those fake covers. -SusanLesch (talk) 22:16, 23 April 2023 (UTC)