Talk:First Battle of Springfield

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Requested move 12 June 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (This does not mean there is a consensus for "Battle" over "battle." Rather, that issue may be further discussed by proposing that this article and Second Battle of Springfield be changed to lower-case "battle.") (non-admin closure) SilverLocust (talk) 23:40, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Action at Springfield → First Battle of Springfield – Article was moved in 2019 w/o discussion under the basis that this is how the name appears in the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies in the War of the Rebellion, but the nomenclature hasn't been carried over into 20th and 21st century sources. For what it's worth, that ORs also refer to an number of other actions, including the Second Battle of Springfield by names such as "Engagement at Springfield" or "Skirmish at Springfield", so I don't think this naming is entirely unambiguous. A skim of the relevant literature suggests that "First Battle of Springfield" or the variant "Springfield I" is in greater use than "Zagonyi's Charge", so I think First Battle of Springfield is the best possible title here. Hog Farm Talk 01:34, 12 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 01:52, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Support First battle of Springfield. I have done several searches (google, google scholar, google books, google ngram and JSTOR) for the different possible names. "Action at" and "battle of" have several referents but frequently are for the Revolutionary War. "First battle of Springfield" can also refer To Springfield NJ; however, there is no actual title conflict at WP, since the proposal is already a redirect here. My searches do not contradict the proposal except in respect to capitalisation. There is sufficient evidence from google books to indicate mixed capitalisation in prose for this battle. Per MOS:CAPS, in such a case, "first" and "battle" would be lowercase, subject to sentence case being applied to capitalise "first". Cinderella157 (talk) 05:10, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Relisting comment: Battle or battle? C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 01:52, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. The current title is no disambiguation at all, as all battles are "actions". Second Battle of Springfield is capitalised, as are all other First, Second, etc, Battles, so I see no reason to lowercase it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:32, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.