Talk:First Wikipedia edit

When did import happen?
BTW: once the database had been found, in 2010, I reconstructed the first 10k edits. I wonder when the edits were imported back into Wikipedia? There's no citation. -Reagle (talk) 16:58, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It was a little painful to write this article, because there is way more I could have written, but very little of it in sources that would pass WP:RS muster. There is tons of things, for example, in WP:RECORDS (a page to which I've contributed quite a bit), but the only citations for them are links to mailing list posts or diffs from project pages. There's also a good bit in History of Wikipedia that was scantily-sourced enough I didn't feel like pushing my luck by putting into a brand new article. jp×g 12:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I imported the edits in July 2019. This was documented in the Signpost. you're probably (painfully?) aware of this but see the subheadings in the sections about self-published sources for advice in situations like this. Graham 87  13:22, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * That's an excellent link. I am aware that I could probably get away with some WP:ABOUTSELF here, but I figured that creating this article at all was basically begging for an AfD... maybe once the DYK runs I can get a bit more cheeky ;)
 * As an aside, I wonder how many levels of WP:COI it is for me (as both a Wikipedia editor and a Signpost writer) to cite that article -- it'd at least be an interesting noticeboard thread. I do think it ought to go in the article, but probably someone besides me should put it there. jp×g 14:36, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if that 2019 Signpost article goes in, it would probably be condign to include the Jimbo quote about the "hello world" edit -- it covers some things that aren't mentioned in many of the other sources (like the original process of deleting articles by dropping them from the database entirely). jp×g 14:40, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Eh I wouldn't have a problem with you adding the Signpost article. You weren't involved in the publication back then per relevant searches; the article was co-written by the current editor-in-chief but I don't think that's very relevant or at all problematic. By that logic *I* have an even bigger COI because I'm promoting an action that I undertook. Graham 87  15:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I've been a daredevil and added it, along with the quote, as you suggested. Graham 87 15:26, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Bravo. jp×g 01:34, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks. I link to that from my blog post now. I imagine it was a nuisance since you didn't import the other pages? -Reagle (talk) 17:28, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I imported those edits specifically because of how historically significant they are. The process is tedious and error-prone due to how many username changes there have been between 2001 and now; it can also be difficult/impossible to correct an import if a mistake has been made. I'm also not usually a fan of creating significant gaps in the page history/misleading edit summaries ... but for this specific case it wasn't too much of an issue. Graham 87 02:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Editing a live auction's resource
I describe the changing of the timestamp on a live auction on my blog. -Reagle (talk) 17:37, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Doesn't destroying your artwork while it's being auctioned just make it worth more? jp×g 16:13, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Sources on Wikipedia first recorded edits
I won't add it because of WP:COI, but this article should include Slates's Jimmy Wales is auctioning the "Birth of Wikipedia" as an NFT and my blog post about Wikipedia's first recorded edits and the WP 10K redux project. (These are cited in the Slate article.) -Reagle (talk) 22:18, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And adding to this, the article does not mention that Christie's screenshot had an impossible timestamp, that Wales changed it for the live version. This is important, especially now that a screenshot of the Christie's image is now included. (What did PleasrDAO actually buy? I think they bought a signature of a screenshot of an impossible image!) -Reagle (talk) 22:29, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * These would be good to add, but I don't personally feel inclined to do much more with this article right now. My main aim here is summed up in my first edit summary. Graham 87 01:17, 4 January 2022 (UTC)