Talk:Fish Speaker

Explanation
I can't seem to find an explanation of why such a retarded name was chosen for this army. dreddnott 02:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Makes sense to me, as he was retarded enough to make a female army that is supposedly the most effective ever. Just plain stupid. The previous unsigned comment by 193.75.60.244 00:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's not stupid and it's not retarded. IT'S FICTION. What about that word confuses you? It isn't real. People get in giant ships that fold space and POOF they break every law of physics. Shields and Lasers are invented but for some made up reason, blow each other up if they touch. People see the future and one turns into a giant worm after letting some alien creature live in his skin. Want to just contemplate for a half second the biology behind that one? Women (well, females, some are young) with superhuman power and unrealistic abilities are seen in Herberts work to a degree not seen again till Joss Whedon sure. I'll give you that. However his work is a work of make believe. Realistically it isn't possible for sheer reasons of biology I'll also give you that. However given all the other suspension of disbelief needed to make this story work WOMEN BEING TOP NOTCH WARRIORS IS THE ONE THAT TROUBLES YOU? Now come on. That's just silly in perspective. If I'm gonna assume humans at that point can alter their structure at the nano level, can predict future events, process and store more information then the greatest computers, and can turn into a giant worm... well a few chicks getting the extra strength per pound to be equal or greater then men physically (while men aren't given an accompanyting boost) is a very small leap in comparison. By degree of severity, it's about the most reasonable, believable thing of all those. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.207.188.75 (talk) 11:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC).


 * It's because their symbol was the sandtrout. Noclevername 05:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

From GEoD: "What did my Fish Speakers say?" "They said you're God. Why do you call them Fish Speakers?" "An old conceit. The first priestesses spoke to fish in their dreams. They learned valuable things that way." Tleilax Master B 18:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Lesbianism
I do recall that, in God Emperor, the Fish Speakers are clearly portrayed to have Lesbian tendencies among some of their members. Idaho notices it and finds it troubling, only to be reprimanded by Leto II who notes that some of histories greatest warriors (specifically citing Greeks) have had such tendencies and that they possess a "berserker" ability in combat. I think it should definitely be included, although I have not read the book in years and do not have a copy readily available. Please, someone, add it. --Bobak 20:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You are absolutely correct, Bobak, and thanks for pointing that out. I do have the book around, and will try to find it - mind you, I found that passage on a website once, so it shouldn't be too hard to find a source. Thanks again, and be well. 87.196.51.120 (talk) 23:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)