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Very outdated
I suspect this text came from the 1911 Encyclopedia. Someone who fishes might want to take a look at it and see if it needs updating. --KQ 19:09 Jul 29, 2002 (PDT)


 * I know one thing - it is outdated. Most rods today are made of synthetic materials. -- April 12:18 Jul 31, 2002 (PDT)

Removed the following outdated text. -- April

''Fishing rods are now usually made from the bamboo, the Calcutta reed, or of ash wood, as it is necessary they should be made light, tough, and pliable. The butts are frequently made of maple, with bored bottom; and this butt will outlast several tops. Rods for travelers are made in joints, so as to be easily transported. Some of them are made to be used as a walking cane until needed for sport. A perfect rod should gradually taper from end to end, be tight in all its joints, and be equally and uniformly pliable, not bending in one place more than another. Fishing rods vary from 12 to 20 feet in length.''

I'm going to add an amended version of the above back into the article, as it provides a valuable historical perspective on fishing rods. Marktaff 20:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Fishing rod
THE REFERENCE TO A BARBED HOOK AT THE END OF THE LINE IS UNNECESSARY AND MISLEADING. A HOOK OR LURE WOULD BOTH BE APPROPRIATE. THE REFERENCE TO A BARBED HOOK IGNORES THE FACT THAT AN INCREASING NUMBER OF SPORTS FISHERMAN ARE SUBJECT TO 'CATCH AND RELEASE' REGULATIONS AND FOR THIS REASON, OR SIMPLY FOR THE SPORT, FISH WITH BARBLESS HOOKS.

Fishing-guns
What about those amazing air-powered whatchamajiggers that FIRE the hook out from the rod? Those are awesome.


 * Yes, I haven't seen ones that fire out of the rod as such, but I have seen the remarkable Dewhurst fishing cannon which fires the line (hook, line and sinker) 300 metres, using compressed air. --Geronimo20 (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Fishing Rod 'Action'
I'd like to revise this section, changing the title to "Rod Classifications", make both 'Action' and 'Speed' subsections (leaving them essentially the same,) and adding sections about line weight and lure weight ratings. I'm going to begin drafting it this week in my user area. Feedback on the idea? LaughingVulcan 00:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC) Made the edit. Section is now Rod specifications

Rod materials
Is it me, or is there just a little dislocation between all the different uses of rods (i.e. Fly, Ice, etc.) and "Carbon fibre"? Should there be a separate section on rod materials (cf, fiberglass, graphite, bamboo, others???), and a section on rod uses (angling, fly, ice, etc...) Or would that get too confusing?  Laughing Vulcan  Laugh With Me /  Logical Entries 04:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I was just thinking the same Aszazin   —Preceding undated comment added 19:45, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Bait casting rod?
A bunch of the other rod types mention being similar or whatever to a bait casting rod. But what is a bait casting rod? Lollerskates (talk) 20:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

METRIC AND IMPERIAL MEASURMENTS
ITS THE 21st Century Folks!!! So for a good artical metric measurments should be used throughout....However, due to the history of the sport, inclusion of imperial measurments is still appropiate.....But both be used consistantly,....just not one and then the other at different stages in the article....its makes for a poor article otherwise.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by MACHINAENIX (talk • contribs) 14:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

SIMPLE FISHING ROD. Hi. In my Grandfather's village in WEstern Ireland, the locals used to go out into the harbour using just a plank of wood with four to six lines, with hooks and weights attached. If they found a school underneath, which they were good at doing, they could bring back all the hooks loaded with fish at one time. This is a picture of one I found on some archaeology site (I think) http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/claremuseum/riches_of_clare/water/fishing_board.htm but I know they were in practice at least as late as the early nineties because I saw it myself. So, basically, is there a name for this type of fishing device, and for this kind of fishing. If you know, please reply here. Also, it might make an addition to this article. Thanks, Simon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.217.134 (talk) 10:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Implied US perspective in History section
"Until the mid-1800s rods were generally made in England." This statement makes no sense until you realize the implied American perspective (rods _sold and used in the United States_ were generally made in England"). The whole section, in fact, is US-centric and should be marked as such or rethought/rewritten as part of a broader history of the fishing rod. Travcurrit (talk) 14:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC) travcurrit

Updating References
I added two sources to the section on Carbon Fiber rods and added a clarification statement so that readers would understand that all of the rod types could be made of several materials. I also added a source under the Action section so readers could find valid information on the subject. LSUFish09 (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

tnx, I corrected something you stated: when speaking of graphite, in fact 'carbon fiber composite' is meant (which is a kind of graphite-chain) it's not a different material next to carbon fibre, just an alternative naming. But there are different carbon fibres: from the old 'HS' (High Strength) fibres, through the modern 'IM' & 'HM' (intermediate & high modulus) fibres. The intermediate fibers are generally stronger & stiffer (higher modulus) than the HS fibers (which in fact makes HS a legacy material, exceptions excepted), the HM fibers have a high modulus (stiffer) but are also much more brittle and have much less strain. (I think the real details should be found on the pages about carbon fiber & carbon fibre composites). I think it's a shame that there are books published which provide information that the author clearly is not experienced in, just to say something (I speak of Povermo), but I have 70-year old books here which already complain about the great amount of writers on fishing sports which just write down half and/or incorrect information and how one takes over this information without checking with people in the field. (& probably not only in sports fishing) Aszazin (talk) 20:14, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

ferrules
Made a small adjustment on the part about nickel-silver ferrules There is a myth that metal ferrules were replaced by glass or carbon fibre composite spigots and slip-over fittings because they were superior and 'could bend'. (& other fake reasons), in fact this was mainly price & work reduction: all ferrules bring a 'dead spot', also slipovers & spigot's do not bend (or not enough to bend under a normal rod load), but of all systems, the metal ferrule provides the shortest dead spot. Additionally, a brass/nickelsilver/bronze ferrule's mass will help load the butt part (most powerful & fast part of a rod) while casting, given that the rod is designed right. This provides a more effortless casting experience. Copper alloys used for ferrules have some specific properties that are almost unbeatable by any other material (& for sure not carbon or glass, but also not by stainless steel for instance), that is why a quality metal ferrule fitting will never let loose while casting and lasts a lifetime (given that it is a good design & attached correctly ofcourse) There is no straight written source (there is a written source referring to a oral source speaking to the writer itself), but the fact that metal ferrules were replaced by spigots & slipovers only because of the cost & time a metal ferrule asked, was said by a (for commercial reasons unspecified) rod & blank manufacturer as the only reason. All so-called technical arguments were launched to make it sell (as too often happens). By today it seems some quality spigots & slipovers achieve to stay attached to the rod while casting, although I don't know about 15 years later... a good rod is a lifetime investment Aszazin (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a problem in that you do not seem to have provided citations for your additions. A key policy on Wikipedia is that suspicion you might be engaged in original research should be avoided by verifying with reliable sources. Otherwise your addition have limited encyclopedic value, and are liable to be deleted. --Epipelagic (talk) 17:35, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok!, I'll provide citations. Will take some time though (due to my professional life on the moment).Aszazin (talk) 20:33, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

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Image of a "collection"?
I think the caption for the image at the opening of the article is a stretch. It does not depict a collection. At best, it depicts some fishing rods (fly and bait-casting) thrown in the back of an SUV. This image
 * 140px]] might be better. &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   06:59, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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