Talk:Five-Timers Club

Sketches
Exactly how many 'Five Timers' Club sketches have there been? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.140.32 (talk) 03:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Two, I believe. Trivialist (talk) 02:30, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Rule
Is there any stated rule that the "five times" have to be in the same field (hosting or musical guesting)? (IE: Why are Sting's 2 hosting gigs not counted to make him a 7-timer?) TheHYPO 06:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, based on the episode that aired 3/9/13, the five-timers club is only for hosting five times and doesn't count musical appearances. That would take a lot of people on the list off of it. Justin Timberlake entered the five-timers club with that show so the date of his fifth appearance as host is now also incorrect. --Sbwinter2 (talk) 02:00, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Not a real thing
Um, this isn't a real club. The article makes it sound like more than a silly skit. 141.151.79.241 04:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

My opinion
If you count hosting and musical act appearances seperate as the article alludes too. Then if you host and are musical act on the same show it should be counted as 2 instead of one.Aladdin Zane 13:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

from main article
I've trimmed the 5-timer list from the main article. Here is what was on that list, in case there's anything that might need to be brought over.

The "Five Timers' Club"
The following performers have hosted SNL at least five times. A indicates that the performers are the subjects of their own "Best of ..." videotape, DVD, or compilation special. If a appears next to a person's name that means they were once a cast member on the show. The Five-Timers Club originates from a sketch which appeared on Tom Hanks' fifth episode. This list comes from raw data compiled and listed from two sources: http://snlmusic.parshaparts.com/snlmusic.php and http://snl.jt.org/).

It looked like most of that info was already here, but other folks may feel differently. Matt Deres (talk) 13:37, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Removing "Close to being members" section
The "Close to being members" section, which includes those who have hosted SNL 4 times, should not be included in this article. Firstly, it is WP:OR. More importantly, however, it excessively broadens the scope of this list, whose criteria are already set in its title. You would not find a "Close to being members" section in other areas like 500 home run club (an FA), List of college dropout billionaires, or 27 Club, because "almost" is not a notable accomplishment. -- Wikipedical (talk) 03:14, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Your WP:OR argument lacks merit. Are you saying that the people on the list did not host SNL 4 times? As for your comparisons to other lists, your arguments lack seriousness, as the the lists List of college dropout billionaires and 27 Club cannot have an "almost", just like a woman cannot be "almost pregnant". As for the 500 home run club, it cannot have an "almost" as it is difficult to define an "almost" because where would do you draw the line? at 499? 475? 450? 400? For the Five-Timers Club, an "almost" is pretty easy to define. However whatever (talk) 01:28, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Firstly, yes, there are no references. But you've understood exactly what I was trying to point out- this article is titled, "Five-Timers Club," defining the content of the article.  It shouldn't be up to editors' judgment to define what "almost" means.  Why not hosting 3 times?  5 times is not arbitrary because it has significant coverage in reliable sources.  A list of 4-time hosts is certainly not encyclopedic, which is why I have removed that section.  If you can show why appearing on SNL 4 times is notable, be my guest.  --  Wikipedical (talk) 01:46, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * If you can show why appearing on SNL 4 times is notable, be my guest.
 * You lost me. Each and every hosting/musical guest is notable, which is why there is an article Saturday Night Live hosts. As for references, if the table listed the shows, I guess that would be the reference? However whatever (talk) 19:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Per 85.236.46.4's comment "Almost members are not impressive, but it helps to keep track of who is going to be the next member": There's no guarantee that any of them will host again. Lorne Michaels could decide tomorrow that no one will host more than four times. Including them as "future five-timers" is pure speculation. Trivialist (talk) 01:00, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Logic dictates that someone who has hosted 4 times needs to host only one more time to be inducted into the five-timers club. So the argument 'It shouldn't be up to editors' judgment to define what "almost" means. Why not hosting 3 times?' has no merit. 3 is almost 4, and 4 is almost 5. Except if you use some other numerical system, but we won't get into that. Your removing the list before there is a consensus will be counted towards 3RR. --84.175.70.95 (talk) 12:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Bold talk for your first edit, 84.175.70.95... Trivialist (talk) 00:55, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Removing musical guests
From the table, I have removed mention of musical guests who have appeared 5+ times. This article and the Five-Timers Club are about those who have hosted 5+ times. Paul Simon seems to be the exception here, but Eminem, Dave Matthews, Sting, etc. shouldn't be included. -- Wikipedical (talk) 21:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)