Talk:Five-octave vocal range

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I am confused, if a five-octave range is so unique, how come this wiki article; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yma_Sumac claims Ms Sumac was 'credited with singing the highest note recorded by the female voice (surpassing Erna Sack) in the track "Chuncho" in one of her LPs (Inca Taqui 1953)' yet she is refered as a four-octave singe.Which is higher then, a four-octave or a five-octave?
 * Five octave. The four octave range should be incorrect.  Also, Georgia Brown and even Mariah have sung higher than Yma nowadays anyway Antares33712 16:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, her official website denotes an interview were she asserts her five octave range. http://www.sunvirgin.com/ Antares33712 19:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * also Yma Sumac was singing back in the 50's. The record for the highest note ever sang back then wouldn't have been anywhere near as high as it is now, it would have been easier for someone with a 5 octave range to break that record.

why is christina aguilera in this catergory? she has four-octave vocal range, not five, that is why i took it out of this category on and her main page artical.

and isn't she a spinto soprano??


 * I'm pretty sure Yma could have gone higher. But she did hold the highest Note I believe but only by a half step since the highest by opera singers was C7. Her range is in fact 4 octaves. Some singers inaccurately exploit their range. Mariah's is less than five octaves and as is Yma's. Yma's lowest note is in the 2nd octave. I forgot what note it is but it would have to be C2 for her range to be 5 octaves which it isnt. However they can stay since this category seems useless and not very well varified. And Misia's highest notes are like G6's or A6's. Myke 08:55, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Clarification
Mariah Carey DOES have a five-octave vocal range from E2-F7 at least! (If you want to count the G#7, then fine, but I usually don't). As for Christina Aguilera, she does have a four octave range, but some people mistakenly put it as 5 because she goes into the seventh octave. Minnie Riperton had the 5-6 range. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.19.49.62 (talk) 16:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC) But to it is the Asia's Song Bird Regine Velasquez that can be considered as the best singer today with a 6 octave or sometimes higher.

The 'Vocal extremists' list
What exactly is the difference between a 'vocal extremist' and someone with a 5 octave vocal range? I'm assuming if were talking about vocal extremists in this article then we're mentioning people who have something unusual about their range or have much larger ranges, for the sake of comparisons? If so, how are mariah carey and annie haslam different from non-extremists with 5 octave ranges??

also, should I add Mika and Tireh to the extremists list? both are males who can sing in the sopranino range, and according to their wiki pages, mika has a 5 octave range and Tireh has 6. I think that a singer with 6 octave range should qualify as a vocal extremist seeing as mariah carey and annie haslam have only 5, but that's just my opinion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.200.164.177 (talk) 16:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC).


 * What you are saying about Mika is nowhere in the wiki page to be found. The info that I have found, and as a trained singed I agree, he has a 3,8- 4 octaves range.
 * I don't think you have your facts right, but also, why "extremists"?? let everone sing in the ranve they want. lol
 * You sound ignorant and jelaous. 2003:EA:6F22:CFC9:A0FF:7EAE:4614:59BE (talk) 08:57, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Vocal extremist definiton
A vocal extremist is anyone who possesses a remarkable vocal ability whether it's singing really high, really low, using melisma, whatever. It can apply to a singer's range as well. 5 octaves and up is considered expectionally rare, so anyone with this kind of range would be considered a vocal extremist. Someone who uses a certain skill extensively (i.e whistle register) might fit into the category. I don't think that there's one concrete definition on what a "vocal extremist" is or what constitutes being one. This is only my opinion of course.

Help! Define this type of singer's position
Normally, as long as a person is able to sing (not hit) a certain octave and about, their range can be rounded to the NEAREST octave or be stated in it's exact existence. I, myself, am a whistle register singer and not because u have the ability to sing in the whistle register means that you have a full, although wide, vocal range. Yes, I can sing through to the seventh octave, but there is also a possibility that others who can sing in the seventh octave may well be able to also sing in the fourth octave but may skip the 5th or 6th and go right through to the 7th. What would be the range cast upon that singer?--Mikéylicious &amp; Really, Really Hot!!! 19:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Define this type of singer's position
It would take a good amount of skill to go straight from the fourth octave to the seventh octave. Shanice can go from 4th to 6th in one leap and Mariah can go from fourth to seventh in one leap, so I guess it's possible. As for the range of such a singer, it's not really definable in the way you put it because the question is completely hypothetical and it could be anywhere from 3 octaves of range to four, five, even six octaves of range. Any way you slice it the range would be wide. Now in terms of full voice, one would assume that if one could go into the seventh octave, they would be able to sing through the 5th and 6th octave without any change in vocal quality. That's not necessarily true of everyone of course (one good example is Rachelle Ann Go), but even if the sound is different between octaves or registers, if a singer can go through entire octaves easily (regardless of tone), it's considered part of their range. Hope that helps.