Talk:Five Ks

Appropriately neutral?
The statement that "One who is neither following rules nor keeping all five Ks can not be called a Sikh." seems likely to be supported by extremely observant Sikhs and equally profoundly disputed by less observant Sikhs. Particularly problematic on a page with no references.

A more appropriate statement might be eg "Some sources consider that...", with relevant references.

Even better: "Some sources consider that..., while others dispute this.", with relevant references for both views. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GS(v) (talk • contribs) 13:25, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

A month later, the problematic sentence has not been substantiated or made more neutral. I'm removing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GS(v) (talk • contribs) 14:16, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Kacchera or Kachera?
I have noticed that at the beginning of the article, the undergarments worn by Sikhs is referred to as 'Kacchera', however later into the article, it is spelt as 'Kachera'.

I assume that this is a spelling mistake, but either way, the spelling should be consistent throughout the article. I felt like this should be pointed out. 86.155.14.152 (talk) 15:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Or kachhera. Let's pick one and stick to it. —Tamfang (talk) 06:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I tried to change it to Kachhera, in fact I made a few other helpful changes, but a Wikipedia bot thought I was vandalising and took down an hour of my hard work. Vedānta Linguist (talk) 21:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I have now restored the edits that the bot mistakenly reverted. --Un assiolo (talk) 18:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Vedānta Linguist (talk) 17:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Keski?
It seems like the subject of the Keski needs to be addressed. 100.44.4.72 (talk) 04:18, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

"kachera (a white undergarment)"
The introduction says, "kachera (a white undergarment)", yet the section Kachera does not mention colour, and the picture clearly shows a pair of grey underwear. The main article Kachera does mention white, but again with the same grey image. ◃Amniarix▹ (talk) 12:15, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

IPA for "Pañj Kakār"
Vedānta Linguist added /'pənd͡ʒ.'kə,ka:ɾ/ as a transcription for "Pañj Kakār". I have some questions: Un assiolo (talk) 18:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * 1) What language is this in? If it's English it should use Template:IPAc-en. If it's something else, it should use Template:IPA with the appropriate language parameter (  for Punjabi, I believe).
 * 2) If it's in English, some things are odd.
 * 3) /ə/ can't be in a stressed syllable, unless followed by /r/.
 * 4) /a:/ and /ɾ/ are not used in Wikipedia's IPA standard for English.
 * 5) Are /'/ and /,/ (apostrophe and comma) supposed to be /ˈ/ and /ˌ/ (stress marks)?


 * Hi, it's Vedānta Linguist,
 * 1.This is not English, it is a phonetic transcription of Punjabi. And I don't think I need  for Punjabi, as that is for transliteration, not transcription. I might be wrong (I'm new to editing Wikipedia), but quite certain that   for Punjabi is required for the transliteration, not the IPA.
 * 2. You are right, schwa can't exist in stressed syllable is Punjabi either ,that is phonetically - but it does occur as a phoneme. Hence schwa in stressed syllables is pronounced as a short 'a', rather than schwa. Now that I look at it, /'pənd͡ʒ.'kə,ka:ɾ/ is actually wrong - the stress is on the 2nd syllable in "Kakār".
 * 3.I didn't know how to type /ˈ/ and /ˌ/, so I used /'/ and /,/ 😅. Vedānta Linguist (talk) 06:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've added the  parameter now. I suppose it's not really necessary, but it's how IPA transcriptions for foreign languages are typically handled on Wikipedia. It adds a helpful link to Help:IPA/Punjabi.
 * You can get the stress marks through the Special characters menu when editing on Wikipedia. They are near the bottom of the IPA section. --Un assiolo (talk) 20:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)