Talk:Five dots tattoo

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Illustration at Image:5 dots tattoo.GIF AnonMoos (talk) 08:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. Squiddy | (squirt ink?)  19:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Five Dots Tattoo → Five dots tattoo — Normal capitalisation - the title isn't a proper noun, so should be capitalised the same way that Lower back tattoo and Chinese character tattoo are. I'd move it myself, as uncontroversial, but there is a redirect which needs to be deleted first. Squiddy | (squirt ink?)  11:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support as procedural - any reason you didn't list this as uncontroversial? --Rob Sinden (talk) 13:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * No, I misread the instructions. I'll do it by CSDing the redirect and moving it myself. Squiddy | (squirt ink?)  10:10, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

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Some sources
A link to here was just added to quincunx, which caused me to try to look up sources for this article. They support what this article already says, that the tattoo has many meanings, but the specific meanings might vary. See this edit for details, including citations to six different books. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Good researchin'! I've just copy and pasted your material from quincunx. Cheers, Squiddy | (squirt ink?)  10:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

This is my first attempt at a suggested edit, so I placed it here because it relates to one of the sources cited and a subsequent claim. The section of this article that uses Robert Turner's book Kishkindha is slightly imprecise, and I'm proposing that it should be deleted or backed up by other sources. Turner only mentions the five dots tattoo on page 53 of the Kishkinda, where he claims "I've seen it again amongst the Lombani[sic] gypsies in South India, which makes me think it may have come to Britain with the Romanies, as both groups come from Rajasthan." Firstly, the group one must assume he means when he writes "Lombani" are the "Lambadi" also known as the Banjara (here's a link to the article on them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjara ). First we must question Turner's claim because as he admits it is based on speculation, i.e. this is one man speculating that the five dot tattoo as seen on members of the Lambadi was carried to Britain by the Romanies, which he is basing off the assumption that they are two groups who were exposed to each other in Rajasthan. While there have been some academic hypotheses about the Banjara being the group from which Romanies descended (see Mastana and Papiha, Origin of the Romany gypsies — genetic evidence, Zeitschrift für Morphologie und Anthropologie (June 1992), pp. 43-51), I have been unable to find any research with a conclusive link between the two. With this link between the Lambadi and the Romanies being called into question, with only Turner's source the best you could say is that the quincunx is a common motif in Lambadi tattoos (and I've dropped the idea that it's solely about in-group "recognition" because this too stands on Turner's speculation), and even with that, it would be better to find a more reliable source to quote than Turner's Kishkinda.--165.124.80.156 (talk) 20:02, 3 May 2018 (UTC)