Talk:Flag and seal of Virginia/Archive 1

History of the Seal/Controversy expanded
Is there anything else we should add to the history section? The Flag of Virginia article may soon be expanded with a history section, so seeing as how the Flag is based off the seal this might be a good opportunity to improve this article, too.

Also, thoughts on expanding the mention of the Cuccinelli controversy? If I recall correctly, that was quite a big deal in Virginia; they take the state symbols pretty seriously sometimes, and Cuccinelli already has a controversial reputation for actions just like this. In any case, it's worth including an image of his "alternate" seal. His article gives it a 4-sentence paragraph, and I'm not sure if the "issue" (it's long-dead and buried now) deserves more attention here, or at his article.

Anyway, thoughts? Cheers, 140.183.63.33 (talk) 13:54, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure that keeping the current seal and flag of Virginia after 1865 simply indicated opposition to civil rights, the seal is supposed to represent the struggle against tyranny for civil rights. The issue is at least a little more complicated and might should be expanded in the controversy section as well as earlier explaining the significance of the seal. There are also some other earlier versions of the flag that would be worth posting. Hamiltonl (talk) 15:14, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The seal dates from the 18th century, long before the American Civil War and the U.S. Civil Rights Movement. At the time of the American Revolutionary War, the seal symbolized liberty and opposition to tyrannical British monarchism. Now, it is may be very quite likely that when it was put onto the state flag in 1861 that it was done in opposition to "tyrannical" U.S. abolitionism, but that is not what the original adopters and designers of the seal intended. As such, I don't think it merits attention on the article, it'll give undue weight to something that may not even be something in the first place. Best of regards, Illegitimate Barrister 09:17, 29 January 2015 (UTC)