Talk:Flax in New Zealand

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Should this page also include the New Zeland mountain flax (Phormium cookianum) given the species overlapping uses? --nixie 00:45, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) There might also be reference made to the karakia (prayers) required before cutting the flax in Aotearoa/New Zealand. It's symbolic significance, and "te rito o te harakeke" (the cente of the plant) that must be preserved to presreve the whole plant. hypotaxis 06:46, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Added Phormium cookianum
Hi there. Added Phormium cookianum before I read the discussion note. Sould defn. be included as Flax as a generic term is used to refer to both Phormiums. Also, suggest that flax with a small f be made an F!

Edit note not quite big enough! It would be interesting to include data about both present and past predominance (number of, geographical grouping etc.) if it exists. However both Maori and western articles/knowledge about flax suggest the importance of both species. In my experience as a New Zealander, flax weaver, and someone who has looked after one of the major parts of the broken up Rene Orchiston collection, I am confident that both the literature and the popular view of New Zealanders suggests both species.

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 * Removed since it was a tenuous connection and the article is now called Flax in New Zealand. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 20:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Strange page name
"Flax in New Zealand" is a strange name for this page, surely that brings to mind a discussion of how Linum usitatissimum is grown and marketed in New Zealand! "New Zealand Flax" makes sense, but "Flax in New Zealand" doesn't. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 20:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * The page uses New Zealand English, as per the MOS:TIES. In New Zealand English, flax is not Linum usitatissimum, but the native Phormium species. This is why there's a hatnote. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * As stated in the Linum usitatissimum article that species does not have a monopoly on the common name of "flax". I had initially used the title of New Zealand flax but that is a common name for the widely used plant. Also, the name was chosen to appease those who had opposed a page split that I had done. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants. I will put a hatnote on the article to clarify things. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 20:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Have just now done some editing to make the intro a little clearer - but it's still a strange page name. Snori (talk) 12:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is a strange title. The problem is that "New Zealand flax" is more commonly used for the plants, rather than the fibres, either for the genus as a whole or for one or more species. The only alternative I can think of is "Phormium flax", since the article is about fibrous material called "flax" in New Zealand obtained from species of Phormium. But this too is an odd title. Peter coxhead (talk) 12:35, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

'Blogs are unreliable references'
Please advise the Library of Congress that blogs are 'unreliable' reference sources.

In my library cataloguing experience the LOC copiously references 'personal' blogs:

e.g.

https://lccn.loc.gov/n80050483

The RGSSA Library is a public reference library in Adelaide, South Australia.

We are proud of the research in our blog from reference material in our Collection.

You vetoed our blog link and the reference link to the the Norfolk Island Museum.

Sincerely

https://rgssa.blogspot.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Consignee (talk • contribs) 11:57, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Flax Trade Slavery and the Musket Wars
That flax produced a need for slaves which the Maori used to produce it, and was involved int he musket wars. Would make an interesting mention. Tuntable (talk) 09:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)