Talk:Flex Seal

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2018
put phil at the beginnigng 71.36.15.206 (talk) 03:33, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 09:27, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2018
Phil Swift once turned an old trick into an old submarine. 173.20.117.240 (talk) 21:40, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2018
Consumer Reports did not "accredit" Flex Seal. If you read the source cited it clearly says while the product is great for the gimmick "make a floating boat out of our stuff" it actually is very poor for it's intended purpose. Per the cited source:

"But with other uses, we hit rough seas. It took three coats of Flex Seal to plug the pipe holes, and larger holes blew out under water pressure. Even three coats didn’t seal vertical sections of our gutter’s end caps and joints: The product dripped down. Flex Seal was flexible but tore when bent too far. And although it sealed the crack in our flowerpot, we had to use two coats of spray paint to conceal our handiwork."


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 06:06, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2018
Add to the Products section: "Other products include: Flex Seal, the original aerosol variant, Flex Seal Colors, the multicolored versions, and Flex Seal Liquid, the liquid version." Edit: Source Page shows Flex Seal, Flex Seal Color, and Flex Seal Liquid. MilesPrower1992 (talk) 19:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2018
Change "...Spokesperson Phil Swift has gained attention by doing extraordinary things in commercials, such as sawing a boat in half and then fixing it with Flex Tape." to "...Spokesperson Phil Swift has gained attention by doing extraordinary things in commercials, such as sawing a boat in half and then fixing it with Flex Tape, using Flex Glue to attach the pieces of an ATV, and even turning a pickup truck into the "Flex Seal Submarine" using Flex Seal Colors." MilesPrower1992 (talk) 19:33, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2019
Please change Headquarters:

Headquarters is located in: Weston, FL, U.S. NOT Van Nuys, California, U.S.

Proof can be seen here: https://www.flexsealproducts.com/privacy-policy/ Rklemen (talk) 20:25, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. (The privacy policy appears to say that Swift Response, LLC is based in Weston, FL, not Flex Seal Products, LLC.) —  Newslinger  talk   13:27, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Newslinger - Thank you for the review.  Regarding the clarification that it is headquartered in Weston, FL, additional evidence can be seen here:  http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4802:izrt2o.4.1  (U.S. Patent and Trademark Office Official Record Search, Showing Flex Seal logo, and Weston, FL address)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.20.65.211 (talk) 15:24, 21 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: link leads to an error message.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 16:30, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2019
Founded by Jay Alsadir 2602:306:CF87:87C0:48ED:A63D:4455:2ED (talk) 00:13, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ No source provided. OhNo itsJamie Talk 00:36, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Undo removal of the "In popular culture" section"
On 21 February 2020, User:Justlettersandnumbers removed the section "In popular culture," citing WP:Trivia as the reason. However, I believe this removal to be erroneous. Before its removal, the section was not a list of trivia but instead described how the Flex products received much attention in popular culture. Indeed, I expect that most people who know of the company and its products learned of them from JonTron's videos and/or the Internet memes that followed. The Google Trend for the term "flex tape" shows increased search interest upon the release of JonTron's first video, and its all-time peak coincides with the release of his second video. Furthermore, WP:POPCULTURE lists four questions, all but requiring at least one yes and recommending three yeses for a pop culture reference to be considered encyclopedic content. These questions are: For question 1, the answer is yes: Phil Swift appeared in JonTron's second video. For question 4, the answer is yes: Swift Response's products are the primary subject matter of both videos as well as the basis of the ensuing Internet memes. For question 3, the answer is probably no: I am unaware of any evidence of a real-world event. To my knowledge, Swift Response does not publish their sales numbers, so it's unknown whether the increased publicity translated into increased sales. For question 2, my answer is yes, but I'm less confident of this yes than for questions 1 and 4. I haven't seen the reliability of the existing sources (references 12 and 13 in the pre-removal version) called into question, and I found a third source discussing the release of the second video. Thus, the cultural references discussed in the removed section fulfill at least two, if not three, of the criteria, justifying their presence in the article.
 * 1) Has the subject (if a person or organization) acknowledged the existence of the reference?
 * 2) Have multiple reliable sources pointed out the reference?
 * 3) Did any real-world event occur because of the cultural element covered by the reference?
 * 4) Did the referencing material significantly depend on the specific subject? For example, if the reference is to a specific model of car, did the material use that model car for some reason, or was it just a case of "use a well-known name of a car"?

Since I'm not yet auto-confirmed, I'm unable to add the section back in. However, even if I was able, I expect that my edit would be swiftly reverted due to a lack of support. To that end, I'd like to open a discussion on this issue to gather a consensus. It's possible that the section as it was on 21 February 2020 has one or more problems, but a better solution would be to fix those problems and restore the improved section rather than leave it out entirely.

Lifthil (talk) 03:46, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I support Justlettersandnumbers's removal of the section. Most trivia sections should be removed, and this one isn't notable enough to be an exception. OhNo itsJamie Talk 21:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2020
Grammar Fixes 173.3.251.237 (talk) 19:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC) 173.3.251.237


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please list your proposed changes in a specific "X to Y" format.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 19:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 7 January 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved  (t · c)  buidhe  19:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Swift Response → Flex Seal – The company's legal name is not a public facing one. The company's website only uses "Flex Seal® Products" / "Flex Seal® Family of Products" and leaves no public-facing clues what its legal name is (it can be found under Terms of Use). Sources almost never mention the legal name. This move request would be a reversal of an undiscussed move from Flex Seal in September 2019. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:29, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support, per nom.  NASCARfan0548  ↗  19:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Per WP:COMMONNAME.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:43, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Per all of the above. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 05:52, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2021
Add information About flex seal in popular culture. 68.197.157.236 (talk) 14:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  NASCARfan0548  ↗  14:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)