Talk:Flight Design Axxess

Wrong claims
Early versions had flaps but these were later deleted as they offered no performance advantage. ---> this is wrong, all version of this glider had flaps. There were version which had retractable flaps and other had non retractable flaps.

The flaps arent there for performance, you need them to reach lower speed for starting, landing and for thermaling. Without, the glider would be unlandable. Since it is impossible to show you that this doesn't exists, you should show at least one axxess without flaps.

The aircraft is made from aluminum tubing... ---> this is completely wrong, all version of this glider were made with carbon d-spars.

This is impossible, the design is completely depending on the carbon d-spars as wings as only support for the wing. If you change to alu tubes, it will be a complete different wing. The same as above, since it is impossible to prove the absent of this glider you should show at least one glider with that feature.

The pilot hook-in weight range is 90 to 165 kg (198 to 364 lb) ---> this is wrong. minimum takoff weight is 90 and MTOW is 165kg, this is something very different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.235.211.207 (talk) 16:09, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Take a look at the certification data it says starting weight 115 Kg - 153 Kg, so even less MTOW then the producer said in the prospect. starting weight is complete weight with wing.


 * The text is all cited from the ref in the article. If you want to have this changed then you need to provide a new ref that backs up your claims. - Ahunt (talk) 16:16, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

You should take a look at the certification data: http://www.dhv.de/db1/source/technicdatareport1.php?lang=EN&equptype=1&templatesetid=-1&idtype=3701&nopr=

You can find the approved technical data there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.235.204.148 (talk)


 * Thanks for the DHV ref. It has some weight info, so I will use that to update the article, but has no information on the materials used and nothing that contradicts the World Directory of Leisure Aviation's assertion that later models omitted the flaps, since the publication is a year later than the DHV data. If you find more refs on those please do feel free to post them here. - Ahunt (talk) 17:44, 22 October 2016 (UTC)