Talk:Flip (cocktail)

Notability
This page is meant to be similar to, say, the Margarita page. The reference section needs to be styled to Wiki rules, but I believe that otherwise the page has merit. Flip purr 02:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello Flip purr. I agree with you that this is a notable class of mixed drinks, based on the research I have been doing with the WikiProject Cocktails. This article is going to take a fair amount of editing to make it encyclopedic enough for it to avoid being deleted for being nothing but a recipe. The notability will have to be demonstrated, and several citations will help. Take a look at Eggnog for some ideas. It's an article I helped to improve. It's not perfect, but some of the references in it might help. Please consider becoming an active participant in the WikiProject; it's a great place to discuss articles like this with others who are interested in the topic. -- Willscrlt (  T alk | C ntrb  ) 09:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Priority
This page is more of a how-to guide, which Wikipedia is not. The confusing and esoteric table of recipes should be removed and cleaned-up. The references section doesn't actually cite anything - properly at least. John Reaves 10:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Adoption Notice
I'm going to work on getting this article into shape.

The flip has significant historical importance, the style of drink has been around since at least 1862 (Thomas).

Philvarner 20:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * In general, it would be a shame if anyone were inhibited by such a notice, from editing in the normal fashion. In this particular case, the adoption apparently lasted 8 hours. --Jerzy•t 05:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Egg in your beer
I stumbled onto the accompanying article in researching the expression "egg in your beer" (usually as part of a question that starts "What do you want, ..."). It's also seen in action in one of the Rocky films, and one episode of The Wire (where the consumer would have been a Baltimore dock worker), both scenes suggesting it is a sustaining drink suitable to starting the morning -- whether necessarily when hung over is not clear to me, tho elsewhere it is usually implied. (It's also been suggested occasionally that some brewers use egg white and perhaps the egg shells for clarifying beer -- by flocculation? -- during its manufacture.) Anyway, should one rule out a connection between wanting egg in one's beer, and the evolution between flips being largely beer early on, largely egg recently, and apparently both in between??? I haven't given up on an Egg in one's beer or Egg in your beer article. -- which BTW would mention the Harvard Crimson multi-authored column (David Halberstam, Bernard Gwertzman of the NY Times, Anthony Lukas, Donald Carswell of NBC, Burt Glinn, Kenneth Auchincloss of Newsweek, John Putnam Demos) in the late '40s to mid-'50s. --Jerzy•t 09:04, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Forgot to include: The American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms says in part
 * The origin is unknown, since adding egg to beer does not improve the taste.
 * --Jerzy•t 10:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

More Egg in your beer
When I was so young I can't remember how young, I heard the expression 'egg in your beer'. I believe it was from or at least in the presence of my father. I believe I was not even tall enough that I was as high as my father's waist. I was mystified and I asked my father what was the deal with egg in someone's beer. While I did not consider him an alcoholic, my father was well versed in the ways and customs of drink. He must have had a good 'street' education which I think was common in the 1920s.

Anyway, while I don't remember much of the conversation, I do remember the tenor of the explanation.

Egg in your beer MIGHT be a morning eye opener, but not at all necessarily. Egg in your beer is simply another of the then myriad ways to drink beer like boiler makers, shandy/lemon in beer, pepper in beer, and even I don't know what. One may drink egg in one's beer at any time, for any reason that pleases one. Around the turn of the century (lord help me, I can't believe I just used that expression to describe a period in my life), I tended bar and drank in places where we had hard boiled eggs on the bar for the customers. It was a fading custom as I had only heard of it before, never seen it, esp in better places, other than just a shot and a beer joint, gin mill, etc. I would say that the bottom line is that eggs are inexpensive or often free on the bar. Eggs are very nutritious. Eggs are easily used as a snack food. One might even say that with a bit of salt and pepper, eggs are a touch spicy. That makes eggs, raw or cooked, a very fine, quick, inexpensive, desirable, convenient, wholesome snack food for someone who's main source of nutrition is alcohol.

Also, there is sort of a 'Fear Factor' thing to egg in your beer. What was the reaction, esp of women, to the egg cocktail in the Rocky movie, esp when it first came out?....EEeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuu!!! Well that's part of the egg in your beer thing. If you're man enough (stupid enough) to stand up to raw eggs in your beer, you are man enough to drink all day and spent all your time and money in a tavern.

To sum all that up, if it weren't for the eggs on the bar or in the beer, that drunk would starve to death or die (more quickly) of malnutrition. It may be, but is not necessarily a breakfast thing. And believe it or not, Though possibly it should be, that is not a judgment on drinking. Just a statement of fact. --Tgdf (talk) 19:37, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Please read the 3rd sentence
What I really wanted to write about is: Could the author of the article please read the third sentence? I'd like to know how the proportion of eggs increased in flip when according to the first sentence, there are no eggs AT ALL in flip. I mean this respectfully. I just think maybe the first sentence needs correction or at least clarification. Thanks. --Tgdf (talk) 19:43, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Dead Links
Both of the external links are dead, we should either refind the intended pages or remove them. The page could really use some more links anyways, its sole source has departed... CorporalKobold (talk) 03:01, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Etymology of name
The article states as fact two contrary origins of the name ('flip') : one that I the name comes from pouring the drink back and forth ('flipping') and the other that the name comes from when the drink was heated and it fizzed or flipped. Which is it? 24.126.27.124 (talk) 20:28, 14 June 2022 (UTC)