Talk:Flipper (band)

Vocal Credits
Hey Ted, I wanted to add which vocals were Will's and which were Bruce's, but never saw them credited. What's a song from each? Auto movil 05:52, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi, longtime Flipper fan Bill here. Bruce sang: 1) Ha Ha Ha 2) The Lights The Sound The Rhythm The Noise

Will sang: 1) Life 2) Sex Bomb

BTW, Flipper is playing along with the Mutants, the Avengers and the Dead Kennedys (without Jello Biafra) at the Fab Mab reunion show at the Fillmore in San Francisco on April 8, 2006. Flipper will consist of the three surviving original members plus Bruno De Smartass on bass. I believe Flipper also played a show in Los Angeles sometime after the CBGB shows.

Post-show analysis: they were awesome, but Bruno can't sing, sorry...

On the crediting of vocals: look on the LPs! Generic has an insert with all credits; on Gone Fishin' they're on the printed innersleeve; on Public Flipper Ltd. they're on an insert; on Sex Bomb Baby they're on the back cover.

Pet Rock
Could someone add in the main article that they invented the Pet Rock genre for themselves? Im not |_337 enough to edit a wiki article. -Sean

Die Ant Lose, girl friend of Bruce(Lose)Loose gave Bruce a "PET Rock" for his birthday. At the time the both lived in the Broadway Hotel is S.F., next floor up lived Vince Deranged (singer Animal Things). The three hung with each other a lot. They where the "Baldies". And rivals to the group the Residents, the very advanced music experimental group. The Baldies where the Residents biggest fans. And recorded an tribute album to the Residents. It was a paper disc w/the groves drawn on the paper. The price was "FREE" and probably the first PET Rock project ever.

Anyway, having their usual fun times, Bruce said "I'm going to be an PET rocker from now on!" F*ck Punk! And it started. Bruce and Die Ant and Vince took the concept to all their friends and took in ideas and recruited bands to claim to P.E.T. Rock rather Punk. The idea's and band that followed the ideals (make up your own) had quite an fun time with it.

Lassie Go Fuck, Animal Things, Flipper, Wounds, Church Police, And others comprised the PET rock movement.

P.E.T. rock definition is Petulant Everlasting Teens, Petty Ego Thoughts, or what ever you wanted to give the initials words definitions. Party Every Time!

Bruce

More stupid rumors
No, Bruce did not steal the tapes from the Subterranean warehouse, or anywhere else. This rumor seems to be a conflation of 2 separate unrelated incidents (er, except for the drugs...). Rubin said originally that he was interested in signing the band for a new recording and licensing the Subterranean albums for CD reissue, but the contract he presented to the band at a meeting in Los Angeles gave him exclusive ownership of them, plus publishing rights for their songs. It's unclear if the band had actually read it before signing. In any case, the band got $20,000 and got to record one new album, Rubin got the rights to the 4 released albums, plus a completed but still unreleased 5th album (recorded at the same time as Gone Fishin' and completed after Will's death) which he's still sitting on. After a brutal, exhausting and very expensive legal battle, Subterranean walked away with the rights to continue to press the LPs, but only for US domestic distribution.

As far as I know the Album is just a set of demos for Gone Fishin' recorded in 1982 along with some unreleased songs recorded during the singles and Generic sessions including The Wheel. I've got the 1982 demos that they plan on releasing, the tracks are- Sacrfice, In Your Arms, Survivors of the Plague, In Life My Friends, One By One, Now is the Time, On and On, In the Garden, First the Heart, I Want to Talk, Flipper Blues, Get Away, Talk's Cheap, The Light the Sound the Rythem the Noise, and Kali. It's also possible that they where referring to Will's A3I record, Ruins of America.

-- I used to always hear back in the day that Flipper was named after a dog (belonging to a dude named Eric) that got thrown off of the roof of Barrington (co-op in Berkeley) by some punks, and then the dog flipped over in the air on the way down... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 9eyedeel (talk • contribs) 22:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Flipper's predecessor bands
The article cited SSD as a band that contributed members to Flipper, which is definitely inaccurate. I know there was a punk band from SF in the late 70s called SSI. Is that what was intended? Justin Bailey 20:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

According to the insert in my copy of Negative Trend's "We Don't Play, We Riot" ep, Ted came from a band called SST.

The "Heart Monitor" worn by Bruce Loose is actually an electronic pain blocking unit known as a TENS(see Wikipedia entry). This type of device is sometimes used by people who suffer chronic pain resulting from nerve damage (as Bruce does) and other conditions.

Krist Novoselic
11/9/06 info from email from Steve: "We are off to UK and Iriland in Dec with Krist Novoselic on bass. We are doing a bunck of dates with The Melvins as well as a festival date with Iggy and Sonic Youth."

Flipper as "anti-punk?"
If memory serves me well, I do recall reading articles back in the day in which the band's slow paced style was labeled "anti-punk" and were not actually considered "hardcore" Did the band apply this label, the listeners or both? Smiloid 08:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

See the part about P.E.T. Rock! Flipper was defiantly into "not being Punk" or "hardcore" We where labeled "hardcore" because that is the type of music of the alternative music scene during the time Flipper played the most. Flipper started in 1979, so they where on the edge of the last of the PUNK bands in my opinion. With out PUNK rock or Hardcore to be labeled, what type of music would you call Flippers style? B.Loose — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruceloose (talk • contribs) 01:27, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Sex Bomb Origins
Flipper's biggest hit - Sex Bomb - struck me as an amusing parody of "You Dropped the Bomb" by a 1970's funk group called the Gap Band. I have concerns about adding this, because it may be "original research."

I saw Flipper in 1983, when they took over the stage at the end of a Dead Kennedys concert in Santa Cruz County, and Sex Bomb was instantly recognized by the crowd as their most important song.

It might be useful to mention the connection between the Gap Band hit and the Flipper version. Everyone in the audience 25 years ago understood this instantly.

I honestly just don't know how to add this fact without running into "original resarch" territory. All I know is what I saw at the time. Vpfritz (talk) 08:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Both records came out in 1982 so they were definitely contemporary. Any comparison may well be subjective without at least a documented quote from one of the band stating that intention.
 * One can compare for oneself on YouTube - Gap Band vs Flipper. Their isn't much similarity apart from the 'bomb' metaphor. But 'Sex Bomb' is definitely Flipper's 'disco' song and I could see them riffing on the popular hit at a live show. It's still their most popular song. Casual live parody is probably not an encyclopedic fact. Wwwhatsup (talk) 09:38, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I agree that this speculation should not be on the main page. I should mention that a real connection between the two songs is the use of an unusual "bomb dropping" whistle sound effect which was present on both records.  To me that's the real connection, and it's why I always assumed that the Flipper song was intended as a parody or comment on the Gap Band hit. Vpfritz (talk) 11:49, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Images
I have a bunch of stills posted up at PUNKCAST#1023 of the band in 2006 - I'd add some but I don't know that they're really needed. I've re-added the link to the EL's. I know one would best wish to find free images of the original line-up. It's not impossible that someone could be persuaded to GFDL something. We should find a good pic and target the photographer. I would think that the fish logo is notable enough to bear inclusion even if non-free if some copy were involved, particularly if it had cites. Wwwhatsup (talk) 02:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Post-hardcore?
Could this band be described as such? Or were they perhaps too early for it? Theburning25 (talk) 09:33, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

How about POST LIFE? hahahaha B.Loose

Past Members
It's Ricky Williams the musician, not the NFL player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.28.47 (talk) 04:42, 5 March 2012 (UTC) Please add that Moby was a short time member of Flipper! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.208.97.253 (talk) 19:03, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Notes from Bruce Loose
Today the following notes were added to the article by User:64.194.67.52.
 * History:(note by Bruce Loose: Singer and second bassist for Flipper) Flipper was Ted Falconi's band, Ricky only came up with the NAME)
 * Early years (1979-1989): note by BRUCE LOOSE: Flipper was Ted was the founding band member, Ricky only gave the band a name, he was not founder!)
 * Reformations (2002-present)(Scentless Apprentice): (note from BRUCE LOOSE) NOT ADDED TO SET LIST, ONLY PLAYED ONCE OR TWICE at LIVE SHOWS!! NOT PART OF SET LIST!
 * Influence on other musicians (Will Shatter in jail): (note by BRUCE LOOSE: Will was not on that tour, Bruno was, we hit jail due of TED'S spiked wrist bands and a PILL found in one members bag giving us DURG and WEPONS charges, Bruno saved the day trying to cop plea for all charges, but this was to late. Promoters from the whole EAST cost had to write to the JUDGE of "Flippers reality", and not just a group of THUGS rampaging across the country)!
 * Influence on other musicians (Moby): Moby sang for two SETS of shows, back thjen, trying to have me show him all of Flipper material, for he claimed he would play bass, but I knew better. Do you know of any Moby songs that sound like Flipper? I thought not. (note by BRUCE LOOSE)

They were reverted and the user was blocked. I would suggest that the assertions challenged above, if not reliably referenced, be expunged from the article. Wwwhatsup (talk) 21:06, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Associated acts
Why does the section for associated acts seems more like a game of 6 degree's of Kevin Bacon? Nirvana is an associated act? How so? Is it because the band Nirvana were fans of Flipper? Was it because they covered a Nirvana song? Was it because a former member of Nirvana joined the band for a short while? If Krist joining makes an association then shouldn't the Foo fighters be included. Well no because neither acts are associated with flipper.18:40, 25 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.149.143.103 (talk)

Sex Bomb Remix Single
I modified the discography to add Falconi's Horn Concerto In D-Fault to the Sex Bomb Remix single. It's on both sides of the record as a blast of squealing, squeaking sound that appears after Sex Bomb along with some snippets of conversation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.243.237.58 (talk) 01:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

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