Talk:Flood control

Move to Flood control (communications)
The other kind of flood control has a history going back thousands of years and is notable for having saved perhaps millions of lives and avoided trillions of dollars in property damage. --Ssbohio (talk) 00:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * 01-Jan-2009: After waiting the entire year of 2008, no one opposed the proposed move, so I have moved the communication-protocol article to the new title "Flood control (communications)". After an analysis of Google-search hits, Google had listed 599 webpages about "flood control", but Wikipedia had the only webpage related to flooding in "communications" or "protocol"; the other 99.83% of webpages (598/599) were about water floods. Consequently, I moved the page and converted article "Flood control" to handle water flooding, the typical meaning in those 99.83% of matching webpages. -Wikid77 (talk) 13:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Connection to Datenflusskontrolle (german)
A data flow control is not the same as a "flood control". I deleted the link to the german text. I am german btw. --84.188.195.94 (talk) 16:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Referenced Encarta link complaint
The Encarta link was taken down by Microsoft, and the WebCite link is active. However, the second page of the Encarta article was also taken down by Microsoft and the WebCite link points to the non existent page. Loved the first half though! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.25.142.225 (talk) 23:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Natural flood control
Methods of natural flood control, such as the use of beavers/beaver dams are not mentioned. See the research by Jan Nyssen, of the Ghent University, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V6C-52CYKTD-1&_user=10&_coverDate=05%2F13%2F2011&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=gateway&_origin=gateway&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1732969156&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=0d98d72eab0715057f47613e6bc5b6ae&searchtype=a

91.182.193.178 (talk) 17:13, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think subject and reference belong. I plan to add heading "Natural Flood Control", link to a section of Beaver_dam, use your reference, and add a sentence on preserving healthy Riparian_areas unless you do first. Darrylh08 (talk) 00:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Unsupported statements in the "Future" section
The "Future" section reads like a pamphlet issued by Global2000 or Greenpeace. I submit that the Seychelles, Vanuatu, and other low-lying islands still have not sunk into the rising seas, very likely because those seas have not been rising. I am loath to make that big a change on my own and look like a vandal; but perhaps I could have some opinions of editors with longer standing? Thanks!Felixkasza (talk) 06:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * At this moment, the "Future" section is an advertisement for Dutch flood control techniques - and I agree with Felix that it uses somewhat sensationalist language to stress the importance of flood control. Nevertheless, it has some good sources so we should not plainly delete the text. I will try and weed out some of the 'unencyclopedic' statements and see if there is any feedback. Pim Rijkee (talk) 13:03, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Methods of detection
A cleanup of the methods of detection section is needed, it doesn't sound coherent at all. Jubblubs (talk) 19:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Merger completed
The merger of the content of the former "flood mitigation" article has now been completed. This is found under flood protection by level section. A redirect has been placed.Richarit (talk) 09:32, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I've re-arranged things a bit. I think the section that was called "flood protection by level" works better as a section called "purposes". But I think we should have a new section on terminology where we could explain all the small nuanced differences between the terms flood control, mitigation, protection, management, relief. EMsmile (talk) 10:41, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Done, but it was hard to find nuanced differences in definitions for each of these terms. They are mosly used interchangeablly I think. I looked at WMO and that led me to UNTERMS website where I found they are all lumped under one definition, apart from flood/risk managemnt which is quite different and has a separate WP page flood risk management Richarit (talk) 17:46, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's looking good. I've made some further edits to it. I tried to make it clearer where exactly on that UNTERMS website the info came from (using the URLs with the respective search terms) and also which sentences were copied (using quotation marks). Furthermore, I suggest that flood risk management is merged into here. I don't see the benefit of keeping that in a separate article. Let's discuss it on the talk page of flood risk management. EMsmile (talk) 07:15, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Removed further reading list
I've removed the further reading list as it wasn't adding much value and was overly Global North centric. The important references should anyway by in the references list. This was the Further Reading list:

EMsmile (talk) 10:33, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * CNN Newsource. “Cleaning New York's Filthy Harbor with One Billion Oysters.” WTVF, January 17, 2019. https://www.newschannel5.com/news/national/cleaning-new-yorks-filthy-harbor-with-one-billion-oysters.
 * Dejean, Ashley. “Five Years after Sandy, One New York Town's Flood Prevention Plans Are so 	Crazy They Just Might Work.” Mother Jones, October 27, 2017. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/five-years-after-sandy-one-new-york-towns-flood-prevention-plans-are-so-crazy-they-just-might-work/.
 * “Hurricane Sandy Design Competition.” Rebuild by Design. Accessed November 16, 2019. http://www.rebuildbydesign.org/our-work/sandy-projects.
 * “Living Breakwaters.” REGENERATING TOTTENVILLE. Accessed November 18, 2019. https://www.regeneratingtottenville.org/living-breakwaters-project.
 * “Living Breakwaters Design and Implementation.” SCAPE. Accessed November 18, 2019. https://www.scapestudio.com/projects/living-breakwaters-design-implementation/.
 * Melcher, Henry. “Rebuild By Design> SCAPE's Living Breakwaters Transform Staten Island's South Shore.” Archpaper.com, April 9, 2014. https://archpaper.com/2014/04/rebuild-by-design-scapes-living-breakwaters-transform-staten-islands-south-shore/.
 * “Tottenville Shoreline Protection Project.” Tottenville Shoreline Protection Project | Governor's Office of Storm Recovery (GOSR). Accessed November 18, 2019. 	https://stormrecovery.ny.gov/tottenville-shoreline-protection-project.
 * “Visualizing The Living Breakwaters at Conference House Park.” Rebuild by Design. Accessed November 19, 2019. http://www.rebuildbydesign.org/news-and-events/press/visualizing-the-living-breakwaters-at-conference-house-park.
 * “Visualizing The Living Breakwaters at Conference House Park.” Rebuild by Design. Accessed November 19, 2019. http://www.rebuildbydesign.org/news-and-events/press/visualizing-the-living-breakwaters-at-conference-house-park.

Better image(s) for the lead
I propose for the lead we show a 2x2 image collage to provide a visual impression of the different flood control options. We could show big infrastructure and also "soft options" (2 of each?); and 2 examples from the Global North, 2 from the Global South. What kind of images would be suitable? Perhaps:
 * 1) One image with a large dyke or dam
 * 2) One image with a sea wall structure
 * 3) One image with a wetland that is used for flood control
 * 4) And another soft option, which one?  EMsmile (talk) 12:02, 18 July 2023 (UTC)