Talk:Florida/Archive 4

Oil, air and hot air
A section says

"Both of Florida's U.S. Senator, Bill Nelson opposes offshore drilling and exploration. Former Governor Jeb Bush, who was originally opposed to all drilling,[46] changed his position in 2005 when he supported a bill introduced into the House of Representatives which allowed unrestricted drilling 125 miles (201 km) or more from the coast.[47] Former Governor Crist, Martinez and Nelson opposed that bill, but Martinez and Nelson voted for a Senate alternative which prohibited drilling within 125 miles (201 km) of the Panhandle coast, and 235 miles (378 km) of the peninsular coast.[48] In July 2007, Florida Governor Charlie Crist announced plans to sign executive orders that would impose strict new air-pollution standards in the state, with aims to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 80% of 1990 levels by 2050. Crist's orders would have set new emissions targets for power companies, automobiles and trucks, and toughen conservation goals for state agencies and require state-owned vehicles to use alternative fuels"

For this article, let's confine ourselves to facts/statutes/executive orders that were actually signed. The rest is, essentially, hot air. Maybe okay for some political articles or the politician's article, but definitely irrelevant to Florida. Student7 (talk) 00:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Improving the Article
Details about how Research Universities are changing the Florida economy should be discussed. The economic impact is important as well. Jccort (talk) 21:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Not only universities, but other types of research organizations. A short list for possible inclusion:


 * Sanford-Burnham Medical Research Institute
 * Florida Environmental Research Institute
 * Florida Institute for Human and Machine Cognition
 * Florida Solar Energy Center
 * Florida Space Research Institute
 * National Center for Simulation

Rather than just listing these and other groups in the article, perhaps a paragraph summarizing the economic impact of them? — Senator2029 (talk) 21:41, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Considering that "collateral" economic impact is largely inflated as self-justifying, not too enthused. Not seeing this in other state articles. This seems inflated to me, at this level. Undoubtedly should be mentioned, but at some other level.
 * I would think some kind of threshold should be set. 2,000 direct full-time employees each? $50 million annual budget each in Florida? (at least one of these is multi-state) Student7 (talk) 19:30, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

East Florida map
At long last I removed the inaccurate File:East and West Florida 1810.jpg map. We do need a map or maps of East and West Florida, but they also need to accurately show the boundary between them.Cúchullain t/ c 17:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I have a question, why the writer single out Florida as a principle location of "Indian wars and racial segregation" after the Civil War. So were other states, yet this is not mentioned in the intro to information for them. This passage appears prejudicial at worse and biased at best I move this passage be deleted.** — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahiim03 (talk • contribs) 04:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 68.48.19.200, 15 September 2011
===Ancestry groups===

The largest reported ancestries in the 2000 Census were English (16.9%), German (11.8%), Irish (10.3%), Italian (6.3%), French (2.8%), Polish (2.7%) and Scottish (1.8%). In the 2000 Census, 62,919 people in Florida self-identified as having "American" ancestry, most of these people are of English descent and some are of Scots-Irish descent however have families that have been in the state so long, in many cases since the colonial period, that they choose to identify simply as having "American" ancestry or do not in fact know their own ancestry.

Before the American Civil War, when slavery was legal, and during the Reconstruction era that followed, blacks made up nearly half of the state's population. Their proportion declined over the next century, as many moved north in the Great Migration while large numbers of northern whites moved to the state. Recently, the state's proportion of black residents has begun to grow again. Today, large concentrations of black residents can be found in northern Florida (notably in Jacksonville, Gainesville, Tallahassee, and Pensacola), the South Florida area-Miami and Fort Lauderdale, the Tampa Bay area, the Orlando area, especially in Orlando and Sanford.

Florida's Hispanic population includes large communities of Cuban Americans in Miami and Tampa, Puerto Ricans in Orlando and Tampa, and Central American migrant workers in inland West-Central and South Florida. The Hispanic community continues to grow more affluent and mobile.

White Americans of all European backgrounds are present in all areas of the state. Those of English and Irish ancestry are present in large numbers in all the urban/suburban areas across the state. Native white Floridians, especially those who have descended from long-time Florida families, affectionately refer to themselves as "Florida crackers". Like whites in most of the other Southern states, they descend mainly from English and Scots-Irish settlers, as well as some other British settlers.

68.48.19.200 (talk) 03:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. — Bility (talk) 16:39, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Invite to Viva Florida 500
I'd like to invite fellow Wikipedians interested in Florida history to join in our new project page for celebrating our state's 500th anniversay at Viva_Florida_500. Please review and join in getting this project off the ground. It's more than just about Ponce de Leon and his landing it is also about other cultures and what new content we can bring into Wiki such as adding new information about the Native Cultures that were here when this period of discovery began.--Ourhistory153 (talk) 14:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Florida's weather
We need more ideas at Talk:Climate_of_Florida.Student7 (talk) 12:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Fraudulent PIP claims in Miami and Tampa worst in nation
An editor has consistently rm the following:

"The state made personal injury protection auto insurance, mandatory for drivers. Fraud was the highest in the nation in 2011, estimated at about $1 billion. Fraud is particularly centered in the Miami-Dade metropolitan and Tampa areas.(start of refs:)

This was pretty much in every major newspaper in the state, if not country, last month. I'm not sure why it is being deleted. Student7 (talk) 15:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Which of the originally cited sources states Florida's fraud was the highest in the nation? Which estimates the actual fraud – as opposed to the premium increases the fraud is used to justify, which like all premiums likely include administrative overhead – is estimated at $1 billion per year? Fat&#38;Happy (talk) 18:03, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * You are correct. The cites I had did not say highest. How about http://www.unitedautocourtsreport.com/blog/?tag=fraudulent-pip-claim
 * or http://www.dbusinessnews.com/shownews.php?newsid=213229&type_news=past&articletitle=SUSPICIOUS%20PIP%20CLAIMS%20SOAR%20IN%20FLORIDA,%20NATIONAL%20INSURANCE%20CRIME%20BUREAU%20SAYS
 * or http://www.flchamber.com/wp-content/uploads/YourVoteMatters_HB119_HouseCivilJustice_012412.pdf
 * or http://www.carinsurancequote.net/nicb-florida-insurance-fraud.html
 * Of course, premiums will be affected. The attorney will often take 30-40% of the net, before or after expenses. Someone has to pay court expenses. There are administrative costs. The cost of a bandaid in a hospital may be $10. It includes a lot of overhead. There are overhead expenses in nearly everything with a "system." I would be surprised if overhead weren't included. Student7 (talk) 14:03, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Those are better. I picked one of them that seemed to most support the original content, added some sourced history and context, and restored the paragraph. Feel free to tweak as necessary. Fat&#38;Happy (talk) 19:41, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! Student7 (talk) 20:12, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

South Florida
Both South Florida and Southern Florida redirect to the US Census defined metropolitan area that includes Miami, without discussion (eg Talk:South Florida, and this must be a better place to raise the matter). The metropolitan area must be the appropriate target regarding the Jewish population but not regarding sugar cane, the Florida panther, the Royal Poinciana (tree), or the tropical climate. (Tropical Florida appears in one title only, Tropical Florida Railroad. Anyway, I'm not sure whether even the once and future Everglades are were or will be ecologically tropical.)

Is there any article about a region in peninsular Florida that may usefully be the target of a hatnote? --P64 (talk) 17:31, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * There are articles for Central Florida, North Florida and the Florida Panhandle (West Florida is about the 18th century British colony), so I see no reason why Southern Florida could not be changed to an article about the region. Of course, that would take some work which I am not ready to help with now. -- Donald Albury 13:19, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia's current use of the term "South Florida" for the Miami metro area is pretty idiosyncratic, which is not a good thing by our own standards. After looking at some geographical surveys of the regions of Florida, I feel it's high time for a change. First, while there are references to South Florida referring to the Miami area, more usually it's used for a much larger part of the state. Additionally, the construction "South Florida metropolitan area" barely exists outside of Wikipedia, which is really bad juju as our article is out of step with the sources. I think South Florida metropolitan area should be moved to Miami metropolitan area (or Miami-Fort Lauderdale metropolitan area or whatever) and South Florida should become an article on the wider region. I'll be able to provide some sources for such an article.Cúchullain t/ c 21:52, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * One of the sources I was referring to for Florida's regions, unfortunately not online though I have it in PDF, is:Cúchullain t/ c 21:55, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We have a tough time with directions in Florida, for some reason. Orlando wanted to "keep" Central Florida as it's own and let the east-Central and west-Central coasts flounder for their own identity. Tampa has yet to be "accepted" into "Central" Florida!
 * Living on the East Coast of Florida, I do know what I mean when I say "West (and East) Florida." The definitions, however, disagree with formal ones which list East-West Floridas an ancient (though largely unknown and therefore unused) territories/definitions under the Spanish crown! Reliable sources definitely important here. Student7 (talk) 14:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I just found Gold Coast (Florida), which was in common use as the name for the coast from West Palm Beach to Miami in the early and mid-20th century. It's probably what inspired Treasure Coast, Space Coast, etc. It seems to have declined in use, but still appears in many business and institutional names in the area. Even where names for regions in Florida are in common use, they are not always well defined. I do know that as a native of Miami and a long time resident of Dade and, later, Palm Beach counties, I would object to calling the whole area Miami. -- Donald Albury 01:34, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, what this will take is sources. Unfortunately most of our articles on Florida regions have none, or too few. Fortunately, there are sources available that can be used to improve them. When I get some time I'll work on updating Central Florida, North Florida, and the various "Coast" regions, and putting together a new South Florida article. The article on the Miami-Ft Lauderdale metro area should be called whatever it's most commonly called in the sources, or at least the best descriptive alternative. It's pretty clear that "South Florida metropolitan area" doesn't work, as that phrase doesn't appear in any sources, and South Florida doesn't just refer to those three counties. Donald, it's funny you bring up the Gold Coast- the source I mentioned above says that term used to apply to the whole area from about the Space Coast to the Keys, but now it's restricted basically to Miami-Dade and Broward Counties, largely because the communities from West Palm and north wanted to distance themselves from Miami! At any rate, I'll do some work on it when I'm able.Cúchullain t/ c 14:15, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think "Gold Coast" is the right term to refer to the Miami metro area, as few, if any people use that term, and few would recognize what area it is. If we want an article on the "Miami metropolitan area" encompassing the Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties, I think the article should be named "Miami metropolitan area" or preferably "Greater Miami". I would argue that Greater Miami is definitely more common in the vernacular than Miami metropolitan area. That said, the term "South Florida" is mostly pertinent to Greater Miami (although I've seen instances where it includes the Keys and Port Saint Lucie for example). Cities on the west coast (ie: Naples, Fort Myers, and Port Charlotte), would most likely refer to themselves as SW Florida.


 * We could have two articles, 1. "Greater Miami" encompassing the Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties; and 2. "Southern Florida" which incorporates the Keys, Greater Miami, and SW Florida. The current Gold Coast article is superfluous, and should be merged into the Greater Miami article.--Comayagua99 (talk) 17:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We definitely should have (at least) two articles, one on South Florida and one on the greater Miami metro area (whatever it's called). "South Florida" would be a better term for the former article than "Southern Florida", since that's what appears in the surveys such as the one I mentioned above. According to that survey, it's used for a much wider area of Florida than just Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach Counties, just as Central Florida covers much more than the Orlando area and North Florida covers the northern part of the state. "Gold Coast" is a vernacular region that deserves some discussion somewhere, and probably a distinct article. It's not totally synonymous with the Miami metropolitan area (in the way that "First Coast" is basically synonymous with the Jacksonville area and "Tampa Bay Area" is synonymous with the Tampa-St. Pete area), so I'd hesitate to merge it there. As I say, I'll do some work when I can and we can go from there.--Cúchullain t/ c 18:20, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * When I lived in the Miami area "Greater Miami" covered much of central and northern Dade County, but not southern Dade County, and certainly not Broward County. In a quick search, I don't see any use of "Greater Miami" that extends beyond Miami-Dade County (other than the Greater Miami Conference, which is in Ohio). The only common name that I am aware of that applies to Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties as a group is "Gold Coast", but that may apply only to the coastal areas of those counties. Here is a map of the location of businesses/institutions with "Gold Coast" in their name. The only one outside of Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties is in Fort Pierce, which is a branch of the Gold Coast Federal Credit Union headquartered in West Palm Beach. Frommer's Guidebook map for the Gold Coast and this include just Broward and Palm Beach counties in the Gold Coast, while Frommer's South Florida covers Miami and the Keys. This New York Times article refers to the coast from Boca Raton to Fort Lauderdale as being part of Florida's Gold Coast. There are a lot of organizations in southeastern Florida that use "Gold Coast" as part of their name. I do not know whether "Gold Coast" is the most common name for the tri-county area, but I would like to see what can be found for other candidates. -- Donald Albury 01:16, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The Lamme & Oldakowski survey I brought up above discusses the Gold Coast (and all the other vernacular regions) in some detail. A 1982 survey by the same authors found that Floridians surveyed described the Gold Coast as running from the south of Dade County north to Martin County, abutting the Space Coast area. However, in the 2007 survey, respondents primarily only described Miami-Dade and Broward Counties as being the Gold Coast. The authors note that residents of Palm Beach County and north wanted to distance themselves perceptually from Miami and the Gold Coast, and that the term "Treasure Coast" has emerged for that area. The authors note that Palm Beach County, though not the areas to the north, remains part of "South Florida" and the metro area centered on Miami, though their efforts to distinguish themselves from their southern neighbors has led to a decline in the term "Gold Coast".
 * I don't think "Gold Coast" is an appropriate name for an article on the Miami-Ft Lauderdale metro area. Basically, it has never been a name for a metro area; it's a vernacular region with no real definition beyond what people say, and that has changed over time. If there's no name that's the most common, w'ell have to go with the most suitable descriptive alternative, whatever that is. It's certainly not "South Florida metropolitan area".Cúchullain t/ c 02:28, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The perhaps widest use including Palm Beach County in the Treasure Coast is based on the Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council, which was established by the state. The state was trying to keep such regional councils from being too large, and Palm Beach County did not want to be lumped in with Dade and Broward Counties, but did not qualify as a region on its own. Using regional planning council boundaries to name regions in WP articles about Florida will have to deal with the South Florida Regional Planning Council including only Broward, Miami-Dade, and Monroe counties (and the Central Florida Regional Planning Council not including the Orlando area). Common usage in Palm Beach County, though, is to refer to Palm Beach County (or the "Palm Beaches") on an equal footing with the Treasure Coast ("Treasure Coast and Palm Beach County", "Treasure Coast-Palm Beach County", or "Treasure Coast, the Palm Beaches, and Boca Raton", the last implying that northernmost Palm Beach County is part of the Treasure Coast). Looking at travel guides again, Frommer's defines Treasure Coast to include Martin, St. Lucie and Indian River counties. Fodor's has a guide to "Palm Beach and the Treasure Coast". There is some usage including Palm Beach County in the Treasure Coast, some usage including Okeechobee County but not Palm Beach County, and some usage including Palm Beach County and Brevard County (but not Okeechobee County), but most of the usage I see restricts Treasure Coast to Martin, St. Lucie and Indian River counties. -- Donald Albury 11:38, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * doing a cursory search for sources specifically on the Dade-Broward-Palm Beach metro area, I found by far the most for "Miami metro area", "Miami metroplitan area", etc. Those returned several thousand on Google Books. There were a few dozen for "Miami-Ft. Lauderdale metro area", etc. there were also a handful using the entire census name for the MSA, "Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Miami Beach, FL MSA", but a lot of those sources primarily use one of the simpler alternatives in the rest of the work (like this one: ). I'd imagine any other terms would be less common than these.Cúchullain t/ c 02:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the problem with naming the region included in the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale-Pompano Beach MSA is that it is an artificial entity created by the government for statistical purposes, and there is no general feeling that it is a unified region (consisting only of the three counties), and thus has no popular or common name for the region as distinct from the rest of southern Florida. Note that the commuter rail system connecting Miami to Riviera Beach is called "Tri-Rail", and was originally operated by the Tri-County Commuter Rail Authority (which has since been renamed South Florida Regional Transportation Authority). -- Donald Albury 11:38, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I disagree. There is definitely a strong sense of being a greater metropolitan area. The counties are completely tied together. A vast number of Broward County residents, especially those that live south of 595, work in Miami. Lots of North Broward residents work in Boca, and many South Palm Beach residents work in Fort Lauderdale or even Downtown Miami. The region's pro sports teams, although mostly in Miami, represent the entire region, same with the media markets, colleges and schools, etc. The region is definitely integrated, even if the neighborhoods and cities are very diverse and different from each other. I don't think the name "Miami-Fort Lauderdale MSA" is the best name, I'd prefer "Miami metropolitan area", "Greater Miami", or just simply "South Florida." South Florida is understood by people as the three counties.--Comayagua99 (talk) 13:42, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * As I said above, the uses I see for "Greater Miami" are restricted to Miami-Dade County, and do not apply to Broward or Palm Beach Counties. Although Miami-Dade County would like to restrict "South Florida" to itself, or at least to the area from Palm Beach County to Monroe County, the term is used far more widely. After all, the University of South Florida is in Tampa, South Florida Community College serves DeSoto, Hardee and Highlands counties, and the South Florida Water Management District includes the Kissimmee River watershed. Although "Metropolitan Miami" was formerly used in a way similar to "Greater Miami", "Miami metropolitan area" does seem to have expanded as the federal definition of the MSA was extended to include first Broward County, and then Palm Beach County. Much as "Miami metropolitan area" grates on my nerves, it aligns much better with the area covered by the MSA than "Greater Miami" does, and "South Florida" has too much usage beyond the MSA. -- Donald Albury 12:10, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

We need to move this discussion to Talk:South Florida. -- Donald Albury 12:33, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Donald, I agree with you. I will do some work on an article on South Florida today. I think the next step will be moving the "South Florida metropolitan area" article to a better title. From what I can tell, the title you (reluctantly) suggest may be most common and best option.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:53, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I finally got around to starting the article on South Florida. Now that the term no longer redirects to the MSA, it is time to discuss moving the MSA's article.--Cúchullain t/ c 20:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC) I finally got around to this: please weigh in at Talk:South Florida metropolitan area.--Cúchullain t/ c 14:39, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Canals
Is there any naming pattern to canals (by county, for example)? Just discovered that there is an L-15 Canal not only in Brevard County but also a different one in Palm Beach County (with the same name). Nor can I find a listing of all the canals in Brevard. I've lived in Brevard for 25 years and just "discovered" this one (not seen from the highway) when it was reported in the newspaper. The prefix must mean something. L for "little"? :) Our only other numbered canal had a C in front of it, I thought for "Canal" until this "new" one popped up.

Specifically hoping for something online. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 17:46, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll do some more googling later but there does seem to be a pattern. This is for West Palm but it suggests that they go in numerical order with L being a designation(somehow) for East-West canals. Here's a similar map of Brevard but it seems to lack labels. I'm not sure what to make of it. And here's a list of smaller maps of Brevard in general. If you know where the L-15 Canal is you might be able to find it? Hope this helped in some way. Ayzmo (talk) 22:46, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Many or the canals are named/numbered by the water management districts. This could be why you found duplicates. Palm Beach County is in the South Florida Water Management District, while Brevard County is in the St. Johns River Water Management District. Here is a map of canals in the South Florida Water Management District. -- Donald Albury 00:54, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Ayzmo and Donald. Student7 (talk) 21:54, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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Statute section
The statutes listed here seem a little random. Repeal of auto inspections and water usage are not very notable items, if the section was to include all of Florida's laws of similar importance the statutes section would be longer than the entire Florida article currently is. I suggest the statutes section be deleted. If not a discussion should be had about what laws to include. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crunk04gtp (talk • contribs) 18:27, 21 May 2012 (UTC) |}


 * Thank you for discussing this.
 * For most stuff in place articles, entries are made when events happen. That doesn't suggest that no other events have ever happened. For example, Elections of 2010 have received extensive coverage in Wikipedia, despite the fact that (for example), the Election of 1860 was a lot more vital but has received scant coverage by comparison. Having said that, there are a few experts or (worse) people with axes to grind, who try to "flesh out" in a systematic way, various articles. This group represents few of Wikipedia editors.
 * The repeal of auto inspections had an incredible impact at the time. It was initiated by a popular Democratic governor (or it wouldn't have passed) who was sick and tired (as we all were) of waiting in line for up to an hour for trivial inspections that one might flunk. Critics said cars would fall apart and the highways would be littered with debris from mufflers and we would all die. So that didn't happen and we all saved, literally, millions of hours each year.
 * Water control is vital to identifying hydraulic empires. It is a (uh) watershed event when this happens.
 * I'm sure there are other important statutes. These are part of "politics" BTW, in case they are wrongly identified in the article. Student7 (talk) 19:10, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

West Florida: Annexation by the United States.
I read in old Harmsworth History of the World the US annexed West florida before in engulfed the rest but neither the exact date nor a map of the area was given. I hopt to find both in this text and am surprised not to find the first annexation mentioned at all — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.98.70 (talk) 10:04, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * There is much more information at the article West Florida, including a discussion about and a link to the short-lived Republic of West Florida, which (despite its name) did not comprise any part of modern-day Florida. That land (which included portions of Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana) was annexed by the United States because it was claimed as part of the Louisiana Purchase, after inconclusive negotiations with Spain, and a rebellion by the (mostly Anglophone) settlers of the region. The rest of West Florida (the part that is in current-day Florida) was not annexed until the ratification of the Adams–Onís Treaty in 1821, which is why there is no discussion of the annexation in the article about the state of Florida, although it is mentioned in History of Florida. The annexation is also discussed in History of Alabama, History of Louisiana, and History of Mississippi, since it is relevant to all three of those states.  Horologium  (talk) 13:31, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Hispanic influence....European influence...?
Spain is part of Europe, and in America history Spain is the biggest european influence, then is ridicolous separate concepts european/hispanic influences. By other side the boom of cuban exile in south florida is an exile of "white cubans=spaniards descents" in a 90%..then by the side if a "cousin" of Fidel castro with grandfathers in Galicia or Asturias spanish regions ar not european influence....there are the center of celtic culture in europe more than scothland or ireland...In the usa imaginary "hispanic" is like "mexican people with aztec blood" but the peoples and cultures in the former spanish empire is more diverse... "Buenos Aires", the argentina capital is a hispanic city? if the answer is yes then NY also is because both cities have millions or people with italian blood....in fact the big italian heritage of emigration to america is argentina and uruguay not usa....The one million of askenazi jews of argentina with russian heritage are hispanics?? the answer is yes, but yes because hispanic and european is like anglo and european...the faces or same coin Thanks and excuse me for my bad english...i talk perfect the second biggest european language..spanish or course :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.107.243.2 (talk) 06:36, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

"Harbored Black Slaves"? Dear Mr. Albury, or whoever is responsible for contributing this passage, This article exhibits indications of "Euro-bias". I am writing this because I and many others take offense to the term "harbored black slaves... called Black Seminoles". You "harbor" criminals. You "harbor" fugitives! When writing this article and It appears to have been written by some Euro-American who seems to be underhandedly condoning the brutal legacy of racial slavery and exhibiting his bias against those blacks who were fleeing this brutal system oppression. Probably the term "Seminoles offered sanctuary" to Blacks would be a better way of writing it. Also A closer examination of history, (according to historians and authors Betty Mae Jumper and Gloria Jahoda), reveals that VERY FEW blacks really WERE THAT "INTEGRATED" into the Seminoles. However, instead, most were given "food and a place to stay" in close proximity to Seminole camps in return for a tribute to the Seminole Chief (check your history). And many (probably most) of these so-called "Black Seminoles" WERE NOT "escaped slaves" AT ALL but were, to the contrary, DESCENDANTS of FREE blacks whose families had decades and centuries long lines of ancestry in Florida (though admittedly SOME were ex-slaves). I am humbly asking you to correct this article so that it reflects a less White-American written-bias. Thank You.
 * See Fugitive Slave Acts and Dred Scott decision. If you have citations {{WP:RS]] to justify your claims, please provide them. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 20:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Lt. Governor
Sidebar needs to be updated to reflect the fact that the Lt. Governor position is currently vacant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewsmithtpa (talk • contribs) 17:21, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Coastal counties Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico
I think it's a good idea to add these categories since Florida has land on both coasts. Monroe is the only county to have both categories. So please leave what I created. I will also include Florida counties on the Atlantic Ocean.--67.84.73.254 (talk) 01:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC) I will also add the category of Landlocked Florida counties.--67.84.73.254 (talk) 01:42, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Link to page United States
There is no link on this page to the page United States. This seems bizarre given that it's about a region of that country. I tried adding a link to the US page but it was reverted. I suggest that it be re-added. Chris Martin (talk) 14:21, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree. Done. Student7 (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Proposal to add section "Water" to Florida
Proposed: Add section about water in Florida.

Geography

Water

Florida has five (5) water management districts. These are (North to South):http://floridaswater.com/maps.html
 * 1) Northwest Florida WMD http://www.nwfwmd.state.fl.us/
 * 2) Suwannee River WMD http://www.srwmd.state.fl.us/
 * 3) Saint Johns WMD http://floridaswater.com/
 * 4) Southwest Florida WMD http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/
 * 5) South Florida WMD http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal/sfwmdmain/home%20page

Central Frorida, the St. Johns River Water Management District (SJRWMD) is proactively addressing the water supply needs in the northeast region of Florida, which includes several counties from Jacksonville to Vero Beach. SJRWMD manages water resources to ensure their continued availability while maximizing both environmental and economic benefits. http://floridaswater.com/technicalreports/pdfs/SP/SJ2004-SP7.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justahguyinflorida (talk • contribs) 20:32, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Florida culture is a reflection of influences and multiple inheritance; Native American, European American, Hispanic and African American heritages can be found in the architecture and cuisine.
You do realize that "Hispanic" falls under the category of European American, right?76.78.226.36 (talk) 16:10, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Catholic caption on photo presented unintentionally biased?
A well-intentioned remark explains that a lot of Catholics are immigrant Hispanics. Okay. But should this be projected to include other religions as well? "Jewish people in South Florida are mainly retirees from New York City." "Protestants are largely Baptist, descendants of redneck Georgians...." :) Few Native Americans left. There's an "explanation" for everything, when you come right down to it. Somehow, the explanation for Catholics sounds (without intending to, I'm sure) a bit biased. "There wouldn't be so many Catholics if it weren't for these damned illegals!" Student7 (talk) 16:04, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Environmental issues
"The Atlantic beaches that are vital to the state's economy are being washed out to sea due to rising sea levels caused by climate change and the state is running out of accessible offshore sand reserves" This is an untrue statement and the "news" article that is the reference does not mention global warming or climate change. Erosion is also not an environmental issue in South Florida. I have no article to link but as i have made 3 private beaches and have lived here my whole life i can assure you that the natural phenomena of erosion is not a problem and is not caused by global warming or "climate change". If that untrue statement could be removed it would be appreciated. 108.214.141.153 (talk) 03:31, 24 July 2014 (UTC) (Mavalanche)
 * The article indeed seems not to mention climate change, so that can be removed as possibly original research. It does talk about erosion, though, and provides credibility to having that in the article. Scarlettail (talk) 04:27, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Economy
Last submitted economic data under the economy section is severely dated. Last GSP figure was from 2010. Florida's economy as of Q2 2014 is $829.3 Million. 2014 Source: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/compare_state_spending_2014bZ0G ; 2013 Source:http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/FLNGSP 50.154.100.98 (talk) 04:31, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2014
The Source referenced in this article references an article about Milwaukee but this is obviously a wikipedia article about Miami. Just a little bit of bad data. http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/103929588.html

69.180.105.213 (talk) 22:39, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: While the source is most specific to Milwaukee in it's prose, it includes a photo of the census data that shows Miami as the sixth poorest. This could use a better source that specifically covers Miami, but the current source does support the ranking. -- ferret (talk) 19:43, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2014
Cody Muse is the Governor of Florida

199.101.9.91 (talk) 21:14, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Rick Scott is the Governor of Florida. Seahorseruler  (Talk Page) (Contribs) 22:40, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2014
Under the left sidebar, please change the text under the population box from Ranked 4th to Ranked 3rd. Please change the population of Florida from 19,552,860 (2013est) to 19,927,311 (2014 est). source info found at: http://www.thefloridanewsjournal.com/2014/12/23/florida-passes-ny-becomes-3rd-most-populated-state-nation

Ese9064 (talk) 22:27, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

✅ I will be adding this in a moment, after verifying the information with the US Census Bureau. Conveniently, they have a press release, which is unquestionably a reliable source. (http://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2014/cb14-232.html) I'm not sure of the reliability of the site you linked; there isn't anything to indicate who is publishing it.  Horologium  (talk) 22:54, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Non-traditional homosexual civil marriage
Why include a recent story of a judge overturning a ban, while not including other information. Better that a see also section hatnote to Same-sex marriage in Florida, than include a one sided recent change in the status of marriage laws in Florida.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The recently added content is one sided, provides no balance, or context. It is being challenged by the state's attorney general, therefore WP:NPOV issues abound.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's called same-sex marriage.


 * This is a historically relevant topic given the constitutional amendment passed several years ago, and previous history such as Homosexuality and Citizenship in Florida and Anita Bryant. I think we can spare a few bytes for a sentence or two.


 * The attorney general can fight it all she wants. It's merely window dressing at this point.- MrX 18:19, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * This
 * is brief statement of fact. How in the world is it not neutral?- MrX 18:24, 6 January 2015 (UTC)


 * This seems particularly axe-grindy. You obviously don't agree with the judge's ruling, and that's your right, but nothing about the language is non-neutral or untrue and the fact that same-sex marriage is allowed in Florida is relevant and notable. On a side note, I take some issue with the provocative and pejorative title of this Talk discussion. -Kudzu1 (talk) 02:43, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I would agree with the first commenter. Seems out of place in a section that deals with auto and insurance policy. Isn't there a separate page on gay marriage in florida already as well as all the other states that passed amendments?Stuke2 (talk) 09:23, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Yup, definitely checked other state pages and don't see the need in repeating info that is already apart of same-sex marriage in Florida under LGBT portalStuke2 (talk) 09:31, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Having said that, it could be a one-liner in Politics of Florida. It is political. That article is fairly weak and needs material. Less appropriate, I think in History of ... Student7 (talk) 22:59, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2015
Under the languages section, the "Spanish" language does not have a percent sign (%) following the digits. Therefore, the number does not accurately represent Florida's language demographics. An addition of a percent sign (%) is necessary. Below is a copy of the text;
 * Languages         =
 * English 73.36%
 * Spanish 19.54
 * French Creole 1.84%

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 * Yes check.svg Done -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 02:44, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

¿Anyone can put this picture&description on the chapter "European arrival"?: thumb|175px|right|[[Juan Ponce de León(Santervás de Campos, Valladolid, Spain). He was one of the first Europeans to arrive to the current U.S. because led the first European expedition to Florida, which he named.]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.172.4.34 (talk) 21:09, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2015
Remove The "Sister States" column, it has nothing to do with providing information with the State of Florida

68.100.248.174 (talk) 22:31, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. It needs more text to explain what it's about rather than removal. See Twin towns and sister cities. Bazj (talk) 09:31, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2015
¿Anyone can put this picture&description on the chapter "European arrival"?: thumb|175px|right|[[Juan Ponce de León(Santervás de Campos, Valladolid, Spain). He was one of the first Europeans to arrive to the current U.S. because led the first European expedition to Florida, which he named.]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.172.4.34 (talk) 16:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Is there any proof that the story that he was seeking the Fountain of Youth was a myth?
I am not talking about the fountain itself, but of the search, as a person might search something that does not exist based on rumors. Is it a proven myth or is it just an assumed myth?Rxantos (talk) 20:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8th August 2015


The Castillo de San Marcos is the oldest masonry fort in the continental United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autrigón (talk • contribs) 05:42, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12th September 2015
In subsection "Environmental Issues", this interesting claim is made: "Miami and other parts of south Florida are the most vulnerable regions in the world to rising sea levels associated with global warming." It's sourced to a Rolling Stone article that doesn't make this claim. I have no doubt that the southern Florida peninsula is vulnerable, but claiming it's "the most vulnerable [region] in the world" is stretching things, especially in light of the special vulnerability of places like the Pacific island nations.

Proposed remedy: (1) If a better source can be found, emending the claim to … are among the most vulnerable … would be more truthful and relieve the article of a US-centric howler. (2) While seeking a better source, may I ask for the "better source needed" or "not in citation given" tag to be placed on this? OctaviaYounger (talk) 00:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. Rolling Stone contains this:  (emphasis added) That seems to verify the claim, at least partly. I think that you should find a source which refutes this or offers a competing claim before changes are made to this section. Or, suggest another source to support the claim. But at the moment I don't think the "better source" or "not in citation" tags would be appropriate here. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:21, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Everyplace at sea level would be at risk. Excluding tides, all water rises the same. Jacksonville, St. Petersburg, Naples, Pensacola Beach, etc. (and New York, Boston, etc.) Exaggerating one place over another is hype.
 * Miami is "running out of sand" to be pumped back onto the beaches. Dunes were destroyed decades ago which sort of protected beach. But Miami's is closer to continental shelf where sand "falls off." The rest of the state gets grants from the federal government to pump it back in where it sits some hundreds of yards offshore. This is cheaper than trucking in sand from anywhere else in the state. The whole state was once a sandbar undersea during the last ice age. Student7 (talk) 00:19, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Climate claim seems incorrect, and the reference does not support the claim
"The climate varies from subtropical in the north to tropical in the south." USDA Plant Hardiness Zones belie this claim. North Florida is not sub-tropical, and South Florida is not tropical, it is sub-tropical. The reference linked to in the sentence does not support the claim anyway. Thank you. Nemo Impune (talk) 04:53, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * North Florida is actually considered humid subtropical. Depending on where you draw the dividing line for Central/South Florida (a very contentious issue for Floridians), South Florida is tropical. Miami is classified as having a Tropical monsoon climate. There are actually two others in Florida if you want to be technical: Tropical rainforest climate and Tropical savannah climate, See: Climate of Florida. Ayzmo (talk) 15:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't see how an area (Tallahassee) can be classified as "sub-tropical" when it once recorded -2 F. It has always seemed WP:BOOSTER-ism to suggest the entire state was universally warm all year.
 * Also, User:Nemo Impune states that the citation does not support such a claim. If true, at least the citation should be changed. Student7 (talk) 20:20, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't see how the citation doesn't support it. The citation is archived here with a brief overview of climates. If you go to the source page (NOAA) for the major image on the page you'll be redirected here. The majority of Florida is classified as Cfa (Humid Subtropical) with the description of "Mild with no dry season, hot summer. Average temperature of warmest months are over 72°F (22°C). Average temperature of coldest month is under 64°F (18°C). Year around rainfall but highly variable." (Bolded in the original). That describes North Florida very well. The map doesn't zoom, but you can see that there is a lighter green and a darker green covering the "tip" of Florida. Those would be in the tropical and subtropical domains, which specific I can't tell you based on the map. Climates aren't based on record temperatures or we wouldn't have accurate climates; they're based on averages. The fact that Tallahassee has reached -2F is impressive (I lived there for 4 years), but not pertinent. And, again as someone who's lived there, the board of tourism really ignores north Florida. South Florida is warm all year with the exception of about a week of winter. Ayzmo (talk) 15:44, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Nifty image composite box
I took this from an article, added it to another and expanded it. It seems quite useful.

B137 (talk) 01:25, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

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The official state website - http://www.myflorida.com/ - is listed at the bottom, under "external links". This is not a standard format for a US State page and should be replaced with the following --

--above the State Symbol Info Box, the following line should be added:
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 * Website = myflorida.com

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florida
are you nuts? did you have to prevent vandilorism Ejohn319 (talk) 22:35, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

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I discovered an error in the Climate section of this article. Hurricane Wilma came ashore in Florida on 24 October 2005, not in 2004. I lived there at the time but can provide a source if needed, should be very easy to find. Rudyrudy~nlwiki (talk) 08:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
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edit request - hail
The line in the climate section which says "hail often accompanies severe thunderstorms " should be removed. Hail is rare in Florida as the warm climate causes the freezing point to be at too high an altitude. Citation: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/publications/schaefer/hailfreq.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:589:102:B920:6DBF:16B0:989D:A29A (talk) 20:07, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Florida University Tuition is extremely inaccurate.
Florida in state tuition is $6,380 a year and out of state tuition is $6,380 + $22,278 according to http://www.sfa.ufl.edu/cost/ I'm fairly confident it is the same or virtually the same for all 4 year public universities in Florida, here is UCF https://admissions.ucf.edu/cost/ and FSU http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=817. Community and State colleges cost the same or less. In this article it claims "$26,000 for in-state students, to $86,000 for out-of-state students" which isn't even accurate if room and board are included. The methodology of the cited Economist article is unclear and it doesn't offer clear numbers, but this grossly misrepresents the cost of college in Florida, particularly public college. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.231.129.40 (talk) 03:13, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Why is this article protected from edits? Is Wikipedia becoming a tyranny of the elites, like old encyclopedias?
I have knowledge and information to offer this article, and I would clean it up structurally and grammatically if I were able to edit it, but I'm not going to go through some process of begging the "experts" for permission.ColumbusConqueror (talk) 02:14, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect information
Florida in Spanish doesn't mean “land of flowers” but “flowered”. It is a small detail, yet it can cause confusion. --España de Cerca (talk) 19:21, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That doesn't jibe with sources. See Florida.- MrX 19:47, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

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The Gun State
It should be mentioned that Florida is shaped like a gun, and they also have a lot of guns there too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.51.217.118 (talk) 07:35, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

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De Soto encountering Seminole "ancestors" on the coast
Although the quote about De Soto comes from a published source, the statement "Native ancestors of the Seminole" is inaccurate. At the time of De Soto's exploration of the Gulf coast, he would have encountered the Calusa, Tocobaga, Uzita and Mocoso. They were predecessors to the Seminole, but not their ancestors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hernando_de_Soto Mropicki (talk) 18:06, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

my intro changes, mostly about geography
This note states the reasons for the changes I made to the first two paragraphs in the intro.

Borders: added Alabama to the western border. Removed Cuba from the southern border, as it's separated from the Florida Keys by almost 100 miles of international waters and does not "border" Florida any more than Italy borders Libya.

I find it highly misleading to note Jacksonville as the largest-area city with no explanation at all of why it occupies that position. It's not really the city of Jacksonville that has this large area; it's the consolidated goverments of Jacksonville and Duval County. Legally, yes, it's the largest ... but that's a legal technicality. Since this is just the intro, I added the shortest clarifying note I could come up with.

The article stated that Florida is a peninsula. Only 2/3 of the state occupies the peninsula. Fixed that. Article also stated "between Gulf, Atlantic, and Straits"; what it's between is the Gulf and the Atlantic and the Straits is merely the tip.

Coastlines are measured two ways, by general perimeter and including all irregularities. I grew up hearing that Florida has the longest coastline because of the irregularities, which in Florida are mostly the barrier islands, which are essentially 3x multiplers. It turns out that Florida's coastline length is second only to Alaska no matter which way you measure, but I thought it worth pointing out that the measurement presented excludes the barrier islands, and linking that article, since they are such an important part of Florida's landform.

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"Land of flowers"
Sorry, but as a native Spanish speaker, I have to tell you that "florida" means literally "flowery", no "land of the flowers". Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capgròs (talk • contribs) 19:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be that the word "florida" literally means "flowery" with the understanding that as the name of a place it would be "flowery land", which can be rephrased with no real loss of meaning as "land of flowers"? --Khajidha (talk) 12:51, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Add to that, the article explains that the original name was La Florida, which is clearly shorthand for a noun -- "nouning an adjective", you might say. Spanish often does this by simply omitting the noun. Had the namer been English, he would have called it Flowerland -- just adding "land" as a suffix. Paleolith (talk) 16:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Poisonous reptiles also include Cottonmouths, Southern Cottonmouths, and Copperhead snakes (in Northwest Florida if not throughout the state). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:8007:1C00:942E:E9CB:914D:E25D (talk) 05:42, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

image spam
So how can we fix this problem? What is the best way to make the article look academic vs kids picture book? We have small sections overloaded with images then we have other with none. Where should we start?--Moxy (talk) 11:51, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The article looked completely fine about a week ago. It was overloaded with images until Thesnider7 started spamming the page a few days ago. If you look at my edits I've been trying to fix the problem by reverting and restoring the page to how it was. A little help in getting him to stop would be really helpful but I don't know how to report him.--SeminoleNation (talk) 17:12, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * User:Thesnider7 seems willing to talk things out...so lets get them involved. First thing we should fix is the image galleries ...by moving images to adjacent text where they are mentioned as per WP:IG = "a gallery should not be added so long there is space for images to be effectively presented adjacent to text."....and removing images not mentioned in the article text as per WP:IMAGEUSE = " purpose of an image is to increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter, usually by directly depicting people, things, activities, and concepts described in the article."--Moxy (talk) 21:49, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

I am not spamming anything...I was adding and deleting pictures...I thought that was the point of editing wikipedia. I don't understand why you want to report me SeminoleNation ...I have been very polite and I asked you what I was doing wrong and how I can fix it for future reference. So there is no need to stop or report me. I have been just trying to add more pictures that were from the rest of Florida since like 90% of the pictures on this page were of or about South Florida, and I switched pictures that just looked bad. I did go a bit overboard with adding pictures though, but Moxy has pointed that out to me and has been helping me with that. Now I've been working with Moxy getting rid of galleries and oddly placed or sized pictures.

Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2018
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You have not provided what you would like to put in the article.  R u f u s Talk to me 04:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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