Talk:Florida Power & Light

Copied directly from FPL website?
It seems much of this article was copy and pasted from FPL website. Is this legal? Jamjam678 11:48, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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Name Confusion
The article uses FPL, Florida Power & Light, and FPL Energy interchangably. This is not the case. Rather, FPL Group is the name of the publicly traded parent company. Its two primary subsidiaries are Florida Power & Light (commonly known as FPL), the regulated utility, and NextEra Energy (the name was recently changed), the unregulated clean energy provider and energy trader. Thus, all three are not simply different names for the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.67.167.226 (talk) 19:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Request for article

 * Could someone create an article for Marshall McDonald, former Chairman of Florida Power and Light? Thanks! Jccort (talk) 17:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

In the News
In the news needs to be restructured to show "criticism" if available. The rest "somewhere else." "In the news" seems to imply that we don't really have any sense about where the information goes. A little thought should help! Operations? Capability? Some of the older stuff, before 2011, can go into "History." Student7 (talk) 21:44, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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Full disclosure
Greetings Wikipedians! Today I edited this article primarily to mention the 1989 Deming Award, add citations to reliable sources and make the Awards section more chronological. Also tried to make the lead more balanced - I don't have a problem with valid references to lobbying and politics, but let's mention something about accomplishments as well. Full disclosure: I worked for FPL early in my career but left the company decades ago. I'm now retired. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 11:22, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

largest power utility in Florida
There is no doubt that that FPL is the "largest power utility in Florida", but the article does not mention any other utilities in the state. Are there any? Does FPL cover the entire state? --rogerd (talk) 23:32, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course there are other providers of electricity in Florida. Some external examples confirmed, not to mention sites like FPUA. - Hard thoughtful work (talk) 17:11, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Infobox updates
Hi editors, I'm Daniel and I work for FPL. I'm hoping to make some pretty significant updates (if you're interested, you can see those in the draft I wrote). I know that because of my COI I can't make direct changes to the article, so I'll post my requests here on the Talk page. For my first request, I was hoping we could make some changes to the infobox, making it more complete and accurate. What I'm proposing is the following: The final is in the box below.
 * Removing "of NextEra Energy Inc." from the subsidiary field, as that does not seem to meet the parameters of the template
 * Updating the CEO to Armando Pimentel Jr., to reflect the current leadership
 * Adding the HQ address
 * Adding # of generation locations
 * Changing industry to "electric power" to be more accurate
 * Changing "Products" to "services" as I think that is a more accurate description
 * Adding financial numbers from the last NextEra Energy 10-K
 * Updating employee numbers
 * Adding NextEra Energy as the parent company

Please let me know what you think, and thank you in advance for considering this request. FPL Daniel (talk) 15:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Reopen the request with updated sources. Shadow311 (talk) 16:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not quite sure what you are asking for. This is the most recent 10-K available. Can you clarify what you mean by updated sources? FPL Daniel (talk) 16:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Change the source access date and link the source to the most updated version of the site. Shadow311 (talk) 16:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I've updated the access date below. This is the most recent 10-K. Let me know if that works for you!


 * Appreciate you taking a look! FPL Daniel (talk) 18:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

History updates
Hi editors, while considers my last request, I thought I'd forge ahead to the History section. My request is to change the current opening three sentences to the following: Early power stations in Florida were primarily used to manufacture ice and sold excess power during off-hours from manufacturing. By the 1920s, demand for power had grown sufficiently that the excess power produced by the ice plants no longer met the need. During 19241925, American Power & Light (APL) purchased power stations in Florida and connected them to provide more consistent power in the network. In December 1925, APL spun off its Florida properties into a new subsidiary, FPL, to replace the Miami Beach Electric Company. The following year, a hurricane hit Miami, damaging much of the electrical infrastructure. APL paid to repair the damage and build two new power stations. By early 1927, FPL had 115,000 customers.

This does a few things. It: Please let me know what you think! FPL Daniel (talk) 16:10, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Provides more context around the formation of FPL
 * Better identifies what kind of company FPL was at founding
 * Removes an unnecessary primary source
 * Updates the Sarasota Journal citation to be more complete
 * Sorry for the delay. There is high backlog and I was busy somewhere The AP  ( talk ) 18:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that! FPL Daniel (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

2023 infobox updates
Hi editors, I've gotten the latest numbers from the most recent 10-K and updated the figures and citation per 's request. In addition to updating the figures, I'm also hoping to make some other minor tweaks to the infobox. What I propose is the following: The most up to date version is in the box below.
 * Removing "of NextEra Energy Inc." from the subsidiary field, as that does not seem to meet the parameters of the template
 * Updating the CEO to Armando Pimentel Jr., to reflect the current leadership
 * Adding the HQ address
 * Adding # of generation locations
 * Changing industry to "electric power" to be more accurate
 * Changing "Products" to "services" as I think that is a more accurate description
 * Adding financial numbers from the last NextEra Energy 10-K
 * Updating employee numbers
 * Adding NextEra Energy as the parent company

Please let me know what you think, and thank you in advance for considering this request. FPL Daniel (talk) 14:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The AP ( talk ) 18:12, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! Would you be willing to take a look at my request to update the History section as well? I'd really appreciate it. FPL Daniel (talk) 15:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

History subsections
Hi editors, continuing to run down my list of requests, I'd like the community to consider creating these new subsections: This breaks up the History section into more readable parts and will hopefully make it easier to make future requests. If anyone is curious about what I eventually hope this article will look like, I did create a draft and diff, which can be found here. you have been kind enough to review my recent requests, would you have any interest in taking a look at this one as well? FPL Daniel (talk) 16:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Make a new subheading, 19502009, to begin after the sentence "By early 1927, FPL had 115,000 customers."
 * Make a new subheading, 2009present, to begin after the sentence "The company strengthened poles and wires that served critical facilities in the service area."
 * I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page.  The AP  ( talk ) 17:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * After making the required changes ,please mark your request as done or notify me if you aren't able to The AP  ( talk ) 17:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The AP ( talk ) 15:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! FPL Daniel (talk) 18:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

1950 history section update
Hi editors, with those new subsections in place, for my next request I suggest replacing the first two paragraphs of the 19502009 section with the following.

The company continued to expand its customer base and generating power, and in 1950 became independently listed on the New York Stock Exchange. Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, FPL built new power stations, including Florida's first nuclear power plant at Turkey Point, which began operation in October 1972. The company launched the Watt-Wise home energy audit program in 1978, designed to improve energy efficiency and reduce energy demand during peak demand. In 1984, FPL created the holding company FPL Group for acquisitions and the creation of companies. FPL became the first non-Japanese company to win the Deming Prize for quality in 1989. In 1990, FPL Group began expanding its reach beyond Florida, purchasing a majority stake in a Georgia Power generation facility that year. Over the course of the next two decades, FPL expanded into the southern and eastern United States, creating a new holding group in 1998, FPL Energy, to manage the company's efforts in electricity markets outside of FPL's service area. It acquired a controlling stake in New Hampshire's Seabrook Station Nuclear Power Plant in 2002 and acquired Texas-based Gexa Energy in 2005. The company also launched the telecommunications subsidiary FPL FiberNet during this time. FPL's customer base reached 4 million in 2002.

My reasoning is this new text helps to fill out the history of the company during that time as supported by reliable sources, updates/rescues currently used sources, and removes one part of a sentence ("in response to a Congressional act which limited utility holding companies") that I could not verify in the sourcing. Please let me know what you think. FPL Daniel (talk) 18:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Encoded   Talk 💬 21:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help! FPL Daniel (talk) 17:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

19502009 request 2
Hi editors, for my next request, I suggest replacing the last paragraph in the 19502009 (which is currently only cited to an FPL press release) with the following:

During the early 2000s, FPL began modernizing its power generation infrastructure, resulting in reduced emissions of flue gas, fuel costs, and oil usage; by 2013, the company was using fewer than 1 million barrels of oil annually. In 2007, the company was the largest utility in Florida. That year, the Florida Public Service Commission rejected an FPL proposal to build a coal-fired power station near Moore Haven, Florida.

At the end of the 2000s, FPL Group and FPL Energy rebranded and were renamed NextEra Energy and NextEra Energy Resources, respectively.


 * Note, the missing source is currently used in the live article as the first source in the 1950-2009 section

This adds a little more context to the company in the 2000s and helps fill out the section a bit more while cutting content that does not meet sourcing standards. It also condenses and moves up some content in the Controversy section that I'll ask to remove another time, related to building a coal plant near Moore Haven. Please let me know what you think! pinging you here since you both have responded to my recent requests in case you are interested in taking a look at this one. FPL Daniel (talk) 17:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Encoded   Talk 💬 21:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that! FPL Daniel (talk) 16:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks like this wasn't done correctly. A new reference was added as, and that reference is not defined. This leaves the article with a referencing error and adds it to the Category:Pages with broken reference names tracking category. Is a reference available to resolve this? (Oops, it was actually  that caused the problem.) -- Mikeblas (talk) 13:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I see what happened here. Looks like an extra 2 got added to the named reference. The reference should be . Would you be willing to make that update? I've got a COI so would prefer to avoid direct editing. FPL Daniel (talk) 15:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Good catch. Fixed! The visual editor will sometimes (often!) screw up references like that, so I looked for it yesterday but didn't seem to find it. -- Mikeblas (talk) 20:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

2009present request
Hi editors, continuing with my requests to update the article, I request that the first paragraph of the 2009-present section be changed to the following:

In 2009, the company started installing smart meters, which communicate with FPL via radio transmissions and provide alerts for outages. The same year, environmental activists camped near the Barley Barber Swamp in protest of the closure of the swamp to public access. The activists claimed FPL was draining the area; the company denied the allegations and said it was working with state and local officials to reopen the area to the public. Seventeen protesters were arrested for trespassing and resisting arrest during the demonstration.

This fleshes out that time period a bit more. I also request that the second paragraph be removed, as it is now redundant with the last changes being made.

As a final aside, I noticed that source 15 in the live article is returning an error. Looks like an extra 2 got added to the ref name. The ref name should be "PBP2"

Please let me know what you think of this request. would you be willing to take a look at this one as well? FPL Daniel (talk) 16:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * as requested - Mikeblas fixed reference. Thanks, Encoded   Talk 💬 21:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! FPL Daniel (talk) 14:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

2009present request 2
Hi editors, continuing with my requests to update the article, I request to remove the second paragraph of the 2009-present section, "In March 2010, FPL Group Inc. changed its name to NextEra Energy Inc. to "modernize" the company's image. The stock ticker changed from FPL to NEE." because it is now redundant, and replace it with the following, which fleshes out the history in the early 2010s:

In 2011, FPL razed an old power station in Cape Canaveral, Florida, the outflow from which warmed the surrounding area and attracted manatees. Following the plant's destruction, the company added pumps and heaters to the area to maintain the environment for the manatees while a new plant was built. Similar replacement projects were undertaken at plants in Riviera Beach and Fort Lauderdale. Following completion of the Riviera Beach project, FPL built the Manatee Education Center and observation area near the plant in 2016.

FPL built the first hybrid solar plant in the world in 2011, which combined solar thermal collectors with combined cycle natural gas generation. The plant, located in Martin County, Florida, had a generation capacity of 75 megawatts. It was decommissioned in 2023. By 2013, FPL owned $34.8 billion in assets and operated 23 plants that generated 24,000 megawatts of electricity. As of 2014, the company had installed 4.9 million smart meters.

Reference 1 is the "Power1" reference already in the article, and reference 7 is the WFOR reference already in the article. My draft makes it more clear.

Please let me know what you think! would you be interested in taking a look at this request as well? FPL Daniel (talk) 14:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)


 * It seems to be spun in a very positive way. Perhaps add how the migration pattern of manatees was permanently altered by the warmed water (about 60% of the population) and the Indian River/Canaveral project was $5 million. I'm guessing it was done through a protection plan, not just done by FPL on its own accord. tedder (talk) 15:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that a short sentence on this would be a useful addition to the article. Encoded   Talk 💬 15:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response here. I'm happy to take a look at the sources Tedder provided and make some revisions. I'll ping you both when I have something new. FPL Daniel (talk) 17:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've got something here that I think incorporates your feedback. I've added a sentence about the disruption to manatee migration patterns caused by power plants broadly and tied it back specifically to the Cape Canaveral plant. I also added the expense related to adding the heaters near the Cape Canaveral plant.
 * I didn't add the bit about 60% of the population being affected because that information is from 2024 and my request is specifically about 2011. I don't think the 60% source supports including that statistic in these sentences.
 * I also didn't add the bit about a protection plan, because that source does not say that FPL added heaters as part of a protection plan. The only mention of FPL in that source is related to a challenge for the Fort Myers power plant by the Southwest Florida Marine Trade Association and I could not locate any other sources that supported the heaters being added by order of a protection plan.
 * My updates are below in bold. Please let me know what you think. FPL Daniel (talk) 19:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

In 2011, FPL razed an old power station in Cape Canaveral, Florida, the outflow from which warmed the surrounding waters. Manatee migration patterns have been disrupted by power station outflows along the Florida coast and they are attracted to these outflow areas, including those from the Cape Canaveral plant. Following the plant's destruction, FPL spent US$5 million to add pumps and heaters to the area to maintain the environment for the manatees while a new plant was built. Similar replacement projects were undertaken at plants in Riviera Beach and Fort Lauderdale. Following completion of the Riviera Beach project, FPL built the Manatee Education Center and observation area near the plant in 2016.

FPL built the first hybrid solar plant in the world in 2011, which combined solar thermal collectors with combined cycle natural gas generation. The plant, located in Martin County, Florida, had a generation capacity of 75 megawatts. It was decommissioned in 2023. By 2013, FPL owned $34.8 billion in assets and operated 23 plants that generated 24,000 megawatts of electricity. As of 2014, the company had installed 4.9 million smart meters.