Talk:Flying (Beatles instrumental)

Instrumental?
The vocals on the track, particularly those starting at 1:02, are rather accentuated. Though there aren't any lyrics, there is definitely vocal work, so my question is: Should the song be considered an instrumental? George The Man 07:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Otherwise-instrumental songs which include simple shouts or chants are generally classified as "instrumentals" (cf. Pick up the Pieces, Tequila (song), TSOP (The Sound of Philadelphia)). The article clearly discusses the presence of the chant in the song; I think we're OK.  Jgm 13:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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new genre
we should also include Space Rock here, since it's mentioned in the article of the genre as one of the earliest examples, and it proves again the unbelivable inventiveness of the beatles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.169.99 (talk) 10:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The genre was added without any input from any other editors.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  00:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 1

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The result of the move request was: page moved.  GB fan  07:17, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Flying (instrumental) → — After a very brief discussion on Talk:Aphasia (instrumental), every instrumental song page was moved. The term instrumental is dubious and I disagree that "Flying" is an instrumental. According to instrumental, an instrumental does not have any vocals, but "Flying" has clear vocals. There was nothing wrong with the old name of this article. McLerristarr (Mclay1) (talk) 05:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * And "Flying (instrumental)" could mean "flying an airplane with aid of navigational instruments". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:16, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per above. I take issue with the prior move discussion, mainly because I've never heard of a move discussion on one page effecting other, unrelated pages.  I courtesy announcement would've been nice.  ~DC  Let's Vent 05:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 21:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Flying (The Beatles song) → Flying (instrumental) – This page move was reverted because it hasn't been properly discussed. While this is actually true and I can understand it, the article should however have been left at its title. This is simply an instrumental, as stated in the article and elsewhere, and should thus use a simpler disambiguation. --The Evil IP address (talk) 09:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose; as noted, it's not an instrumental at all, and the disambiguator is ambiguous with Instrument flight rules. Powers T 15:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The article currently states ""Flying" is an instrumental by The Beatles ...". The listing of this song on the Magical Mystery Tour and the list of rock instrumentals also state this. --The Evil IP address (talk) 17:40, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps -- just maybe -- Wikipedia is wrong? Powers T 19:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - It's not entirely an instrumental and a move would cause confusion.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  18:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If that is really the case, I'd suggest to clarify this article and related articles that call this an instrumental. --The Evil IP address (talk) 11:42, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose per PowersT - it's more likely the suggested title should be about IFR. 70.24.247.54 (talk) 08:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
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Mellotron?
The article claims that the main melody (played on what sounds like a Stylophone) is actually played on a Mellotron. Do we have a source for this? Indeed, do the instruments simulated by a Mellotron include the Stylophone or anything which sounds like one?

It's known that the Beatles had a Mellotron (it was used for the intro of "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill"), but I'm sure I saw somewhere that the instrument on "Flying" is actually a clavioline, which sounds like a Stylophone on its basic setting. — 188.29.7.229 (talk) 22:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Here is a quote by Paul Mccartney from "Many Years From Now" concerning the Mellotron used on Flying: "Flying was an instrumental that we needed for Magical Mystery Tour so in the studio one night I suggested to the guys that we made something up. I said, 'We can keep it very very simple, we can make it a twelve-bar blues. We need a little bit of a theme and a little bit of a backing.' I wrote the melody. The only thing to warrant it as a song is basically the melody, otherwise it's just a nice twelve-bar backing thing. It's played on the Mellotron, on a trombone setting. It's credited to all four, which is how you would credit a non-song." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.155.165.90 (talk) 00:50, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Only Instrumental?
There is a reference to this being the first instrumental written by the Beatles since "12-Bar Original", but isn't this also the only instrumental track to be included on any of the Beatles' studio albums? Not counting bootlegs, and the Anthology albums of course, which were released many years after the band broke up. I doubt if any of the compilation albums or retrospective albums have even this instrumental. Shocking Blue (talk) 17:34, 17 January 2015 (UTC)