Talk:Food loss and waste

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Weird sentence
Following sentence [en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Food_waste&oldid=472608406 here] was unclear: "There are two ways we can reduce food waste, either prevent consumers from throwing away huge amounts of food as waste, or stop them in some way from producing so much."

Does the writer mean:
 * stop them from producing so much food ? Ie in relation to people that grow their own food ? However even in this case, if the waste (human feces) is reintegrated to the agricultural plot, it can hardly be called "wasted".
 * stop them from buying so much food ? (which would be redundant since the first sugestion allready states this)
 * stop them from preventing the food waste to be recycled ? In this case, the writer would mean "prevent consumers from throwing away huge amounts of food as waste in garbage bags, or stop them from buying so much food". The distinction here is that we mention garbage bags as opposed to ie biodegradable_waste containers

I'm guessing it's the last one, so I'm changing it.

91.182.72.118 (talk) 13:54, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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Several references must be refreshed, the link does not work anymore. Thank you.(fr)--Mélanie Huguet (talk) 12:52, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Notification obligation for near-expired foodstuffs
In 2015 in Belgium, the minister for poverty reduction Liesbeth Homans proposed a notification obligation for near-expired foodstuffs for supermarkets. 2 supermarkets (Carrefour and Delhaize) have welcomed the minister's appeal to redistribute near-expired foods to the poor, and proposed to then also integrate a digital register/inventory to further increase efficiency, and the use of cool trucks to transport the near-expired foods from the supermarkets to other distribution centers (of for example volunteer organisations). The minister was enthusiastic about this, and mentioned that 1 cool truck per region could be sponsored/payed for by the state.

The minister also proposed to offer 1-euro meals in all Flemish cities.

Mention in article. KVDP (talk) 13:54, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

in this article food waste is explained not only in America but globally. It breaks down the process in which food waste occurs. from post harvest, to transportation, and finally into our kitchens.

in this article food waste is explained not only in America but globally. It breaks down the process in which food waste occurs. from post harvest, to transportation, and finally into our kitchens.

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Yoshihito Shirai's system
Not sure whether it's notable, but Yoshihito Shirai's fungi allow to recycle wasted food into bioplastic (polylactic acid). See http://www.intechopen.com/books/advances-in-applied-biotechnology/total-recycle-system-of-food-waste-for-poly-l-lactic-acid-output It's being used by the Ebara Corporation. KVDP (talk) 13:03, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Food waste or food loss or both?
This article was originally only about Food Waste. At some stage someone has gone through it adding food loss in a few places, so it now appears to be about "food waste and food loss" although most of the content is still about food waste. Despite the quote from the EU, the commonly understood definitions are that food waste occurs as a result of edible products being thrown away either by retail stores or by the consumer. Food loss relates more to losses that occur as a result of poor post-harvest practices although, obviously, there is no absolutely clear dividing line between the two. A quick Google of the meaning of "waste" comes up with "use or expend carelessly, extravagantly, or to no purpose". Using this definition I do not see how loss can be a component of waste. On the other hand, waste can be a component of loss. Conclusion: either remove references to loss from the article or change its name to Food Loss. Agricmarketing (talk) 17:03, 23 April 2017 (UTC) Not sure what the references below are doing here. Agricmarketing (talk) 17:07, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Community fridge
Can we mention this as a (partial) solution ? See http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-36180998/community-fridge-free-food-for-all and edventurefrome.org/enterprises-initiatives/fridge/ KVDP (talk) 11:12, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

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Abby's Peer Review on Lily's Article
Wow, this article is incredibly detailed and nuanced. Great job on the definitions section. I have lots of context as to what food waste is and why it's a problem. Fantastic!

I would consider rephrasing the "Production" section under "Causes." There are definitely some phrases that are a bit clunky. I would suggest reading it out loud and pausing where it seems awkward to read and revising. Same goes for "Food processing" section.

The second paragraph of the "Retail" section could use a few more citations, if you used information from an outside source. (Your words or someone else's?)

I would rephrase the title of the "Extent" section. Maybe "Broader Implications," or something along those lines?

Under "Reduction and disposal," I would revise "food waste at all social levels has varied hugely." Use a different adverb.

Perhaps add more to the "Composting" section? There's tons of information out there about it.

Great work so far. Keep it up! — Preceding unsigned comment added by YesToYummy (talk • contribs) 15:43, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

The entirety of Denmark's food waste reduction is thanks to one woman
It is wrong to attribute the 25% reduction of food waste in Denmark to Selina Juul. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.150.138.75 (talk) 20:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Food Waste Consumption
These two sources focus on the consumption of food waste. I think the part on consumption could use a few more citations to expand the section. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959652618303366 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/18/americans-waste-food-fruit-vegetables-study Natalieterrone (talk) 21:53, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

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Distribution should be added to the sources of food loss?
Hi Everyone

I think Distribution should be added to the sources of food loss or waste because during distribution some amount of food are lost due to poor packaging, Failure in Making use of Good transportation while distributing this food and so on What do you think? Leezie eia (talk) 14:45, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it's already mentioned under "retail", isn't it? If not, you could add more but be sure to add a reference with it as well (or reuse one of the existing references of the article maybe). EMsmile (talk) 14:54, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * it was made mention of but wasn’t treated as a source.

Distribution Should be part of the sources of food chain What do you think? Leezie eia (talk) 16:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, Leezie eia - I am not sure what you mean. Can you please propose what you'd like to add (with a reference)?EMsmile (talk) 03:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I added food distribution as a part of the lead -- when I wrote it, I as mentally lumping the issue in wit retail and processing, but as said if we want to expand sections on it we probably want more sources. Sadads (talk) 22:06, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 5 May 2021

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 14:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Food waste → Food loss and waste – Rationale to change the Wikipedia “Food waste” page to “Food loss and waste”

Food loss and waste is understood as the decrease in quantity or quality of food along the food supply chain, which is precisely the topic of the Wikipedia page titled “Food waste.” While it is true that there is no universally agreed upon definition of what constitutes food loss vs food waste, there is a widely accepted distinction between the two. Food is lost before it reaches the consumer. Once it has reached the consumer, the food is wasted. When referring to food loss or food waste in the broad sense, as in food that exits from anywhere the supply chain, the best choice of phrasing is simply “food loss and waste.” Therefore, FAO proposes that the page be retitled to “Food loss and waste” to better reflect the rich content in the page. The Sustainable Development Goal Target 12.3 enshrines this clear distinction between food loss and food waste which FAO and UN Environment are using to measure the extent of food loss and food waste globally (FAO, 2021). Target 12.3 sets the goal that “by 2030, halve the per capita global food waste at the retail and consumer level, and reduce food losses along production and supply chains including post-harvest losses”. As such, the progress toward achieving SDG 12.3 is being measured through two separate indices – the Food Loss Index (FLI), led by FAO; and the Food Waste Index (FWI), led by UN Environment. With the release of 2019 edition of The State of Food and Agriculture – Moving forward on food loss and waste, FAO further harmonized the terminology as follows:


 * Food loss is the decrease in the quantity or quality of food resulting from decisions and actions by food suppliers in the chain, excluding retailers, food service providers and consumers.
 * Food waste refers to the decrease in the quantity or quality of food resulting from decisions and actions by retailers, food service providers and consumers.

Therefore, the proposed changes related to the terminology are summarized as follows:


 * The content in the “Food waste” page also covers food loss, and therefore would be better retitled as “food loss and waste.”
 * The first line in the lead of the article incorrectly equates food loss with food waste by saying, “Food waste or food loss….” This would be corrected with the retitling of the page.
 * Under the “Definitions” header, the assertion will be made that what constitutes food loss vs food waste vary (rather than are “contentious” as currently said). Then, the aforementioned definitions would be provided under the “United Nations” sub-header.
 * Where there is no clear distinction of the food supply chain stage being discussed, “food loss and waste” would be the preferred phrasing.

Therefore, I am suggesting the page should be moved and asking for community input.

References
 * FAO. (2019). The State of Food and Agriculture 2019. Moving forward on food loss and waste reduction. http://www.fao.org/3/ca6030en/ca6030en.pdf


 * FAO. (2021). Technical Platform on the Measurement and Reduction of Food Loss and Waste. Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. http://www.fao.org/platform-food-loss-waste/en/

DanSD19 (talk) 11:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Support, the article is clearly about both, and major sources often use the phrase "food loss and waste" in their information on the subject, including the USDA, FDA, and the already cited FAO. --Cerebral726 (talk) 13:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Support, as I knew that it must be known by a lot of people Chidgk1 (talk) 09:28, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support, as above, the article describes both topics, perhaps when its more developed they could be split. John Cummings (talk) 14:55, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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Differences between the First and Third worlds
Is there anything referenceable on this? I recently emigrated to the UK and I have never seen anyone finish their food at a restaurant here. That’s not normal in my country. 82.36.70.45 (talk) 00:12, 23 June 2023 (UTC)