Talk:Footwork (genre)

Merge with Footwork / Juke House (music)
The Information here is much better than that in the Ghetto house page

could be worth melding the two or making a new page that seperates Ghetto House and Footwork / Juke — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayabsley (talk • contribs) 00:17, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Attempts at consolidation
As per discussion on User talk:DJ Alla Dean we, with User:Solidest came to conclusion that juke house and footwork/juke (footwork AKA juke) should be kept separate, as of now. For those who haven't yet glanced over the discussion, the issue is that some sources claim footwork and juke are the two names for the same genre, while others make distinction. The consensus was not touching the section in ghetto house ("juke house" section") and do all editing in the footwork article. I ask patrollers and everyone involved to be careful editing the article as I also am going to edit it for some time starting now. -- DJ Alla Dean (talk) 15:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Japanese footwork
I for now think that Japanese footwork warrants its own article. If noone is opposed to the idea of moving it to its own article while retaining the gist of it in "Japan" section I am going to do so after some short time. DJ Alla Dean (talk) 04:02, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * However, after some thinking I am myself firmly opposed to that, on grounds that footwork/juke is, despite significant press coverage, still an extremely niche genre and moving a part of article elsewhere practically guarantees that after some time it is going to become well-abandoned. Here, on the contrary, the "Japan" section serves to draw part of larger picture and therefore is very relevant in its entirety. Maybe it can be reorganized and some sections may get moved elsewhere in the article, for instance footwork dancing in Japan may get moved to footwork dancing section, social impact may be given top-section priority (since Atomic Bomb Compilation no longer includes only Japanese producers, but producers from elsewhere too, it is not bound to Japan alone). DJ Alla Dean (talk) 04:12, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Invalid conflation of footwork and juke
DJ Alla Dean, who completely rewrote the article in 2022, has an incorrect view on the genre, believing that footwork and juke are the same thing, based on the fact that some sources describe the two terms at the same time (allmusic in particular). Although in fact you can find a ton of sources that describe them as two different genres with different characteristics that have different dates of origin and that refer to different music releases. Footwork is described by sources as bass music, mostly without a drumline, and juke is actually a sped up variation of ghetto house that belongs to house genres branch. This is something that can be verified by many sources that describe each of the two genres independently from each other. For more details, see the discussion on the editors' talk page: User talk:DJ Alla Dean. On my part, I would just roll back the entire article before these edits, as it is effectively WP:OR in my opinion. But I guess it would be more correct to double-check each source and rewrite the whole article sequentially. Solidest (talk) 15:54, 13 March 2024 (UTC)