Talk:For Whom the Bells Toll

What to do with this page
Before the Wedding Bells episode was created, this page existed as a redirect to For Whom The Bell Tolls, on the assumption that anyone who came here must have typoed. Then the WB episode came along, and suddenly "For Whom the Bells Toll" wasn't a typo any more; it had a real referent. Hence this page, with a dab note on top in case the reader was looking for the novel. There isn't really much to say about the episode itself, not enough to justify a page of its own, but redirecting it to List of Wedding Bells episodes will mean we've broken the original function of the page, to help those who've typoed it. So, what to do? Zsero 01:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * We have disambiguation pages for a reason. TTN 01:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sigh. It is not acceptable to redirect it to For Whom the Bell Tolls (disambiguation).  That's a different name.  That page doesn't, and shouldn't point to the Wedding Bells episode.  How can I possibly make this any clearer.  You do not own WP, and I see no reason to put up with your attitude of "We aren't leaving a worthless article for no reason".  Who's "we"?  I'm leaving this for a day, to avoid 3RR, but I invite anyone else who agrees with me to revert it.  The article, small and useless as it is, does nobody any harm, and it fulfills a useful function more transparently than any other method would.  If you can come up with a better way of achieving both ends: pointing to the WB episode for those who are looking for it, and to the dab page for those who typoed, by all means suggest it here for discussion.  Zsero 01:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You're proposing that we should create and leave articles for no other reason than to act as a mini disambiguation page? That is pointless. Nobody is going to care, and that is not a proper procedure. TTN 02:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The article has already been created and has been there; you're the one coming along and wanting to change it, and you need a good reason to do that. Please explain how your current "fix" is even minimally acceptable; the page it points to does not disambiguate this title.  All you're doing is confusing the person who comes here.  I'll leave it for a bit just to cool down, but I am going to change this, unless you yourself come up with something better.  I advise you to do that, if you don't want to see the old page back.  Zsero 02:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It fails WP:EPISODE, so it has been redirected. Articles are not left because they don't harm anyone (WP:NOHARM). How about you add the episode to the disambiguation page? That way people will see it. Even if this was that important, keeping a pointless article is not the way to do it. Show me any other time it has been done. TTN 02:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, it's done. It's just a little reference to the novel title, so it really doesn't matter that much. Continuing with this pointless discussion can only lead to obsessiveness, so please just drop it. TTN 02:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

New page: For Whom the Bells Toll (The Wedding Bells), I'll leave the redirect from this page as edited by TTN to the dab page. - Grumpyyoungman01 03:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * How does that solve the problem? Zsero 05:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't. - Grumpyyoungman01 06:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)