Talk:Forced labor in the Soviet Union

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information to be added for ASU class project
Hello all, I am a student with ASU and for our HST 304 class on Stalin we have to contribute to a Wikipedia article on the Subject.

I intend to add more information to this article regarding what some of the forced labor projects were, what their outcomes were and what life resembled in some of these facilities.

Among the sources I intend to use are these: McCauley, Michael, Stalin and Stalinism. Revised 3rd Edition, Routledge, 2013. ISBN: 978-1-4058-7436-6 Forced labor under Stalin: the archive revelations, Davies, R. W., New Left Review, Nov-Dec, 1995, Issue 214, p.62(19), ISSN: 0028-6060 ONGOING DISCUSSION, SOVIET FORCED LABOR CAMPS Wheatcroft, S, Monas, S, Conquest, R, Rosefielde, S, Anderson, BA, Silver, BD, Slavic Review, 1989 Win, Vol.48(4), pp.724-731 ISSN: 0037-6779 Implementation of the Helsinki accords : hearing before the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, Ninety-ninth Congress, first session, Soviet forced labor practices, August 15, 1985, Buffalo, NY. United States. Congress. Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe. Washington : U.S. G.P.O. Creation Date 1986 Alma MMS ID 991037553089703841 991023755099703841 Edwin Bacon. Soviet Studies Vol. 44, No. 6 (1992), pp. 1069-1086 Published by: Taylor & Francis, Ltd. Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org.ezproxy1.lib.asu.edu/stable/152330 The economics of forced labor : the Soviet Gulag. Paul R Gregory; V. V Lazarev (Valeriĭ Vasilʹevich); ebrary., Inc. 2003 ISBN : 9780817939489 Forced labor in the Soviet Union : hearing before the Subcommittee on Human Rights and International Organizations of the Committee on Foreign Affairs, House of Representatives and the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, Ninety-eighth Congress, first session, November 9, 1983. Corporate Author: United States. Published: Washington : U.S. G.P.O., 1984. A new slavery; forced labor: the communist betrayal of human rights. Introd. by A. A. Berle, Jr. Main Author: Baldwin, Roger Nash, 1884-1981. Published:	[New York, 1953] Steven A. Barnes International Labor and Working-Class History No. 58, Wartime Economies and the Mobilization of Labor (Fall, 2000), pp. 239-260 Published by: Cambridge University Press on behalf of International Labor and Working-Class, Inc. Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org.ezproxy1.lib.asu.edu/stable/27672682 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tevytevtev (talk • contribs) 15:59, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

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This article is very good. There is little to improve on. The article is very informative and contains a lot of useful information. The only thing that I could see that was not that great was the grammar. There were a few issues with the use of words, sentence structure, sentences making sense, and tenses. For starters, there is a mix of too and to. In the paragraph "Daily Life as a Soviet Slave", the use of to is mixed up with too. The word there should be too, as in "too sick". Also in that same paragraph, there is a run-on sentence. I would recommend splitting the sentence up as it takes up three lines. In the paragraph "Women Life in the Gulag", there is a sentence that doesn't quite make sense, "Women in the Gulag were preyed upon from men they were often raped and abused." I would consider rephrasing as it does not make sense. The last thing is that in the section "Types of Labour", the paragraphs are all in present tense. I'm not too sure if the information is relevant today. If it is, then by all means keep it. I just thought I'd point it out as all the other paragraphs are in the past. Other than some grammatical errors, the article is very well put together and provides a lot of information. It is very well done. Nsteblin (talk) 03:15, 20 November 2012 (UTC)User: Nsteblin

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-The section “Daily Life as a Soviet” could be revised with sentence structure: separating run-on sentences with periods to separate ideas would create an effective and interesting paragraph with point by point information. An example of possible re-wording would be “Prisoners were forced to work extremely strenuous labour for up to 14 hours in a single day.”

-A suggestion for the section “Women in the Gulag” to fix sentence structure: replace “They” with “Women”, to clarify you are talking about women. And “special camps” with “separate camps”

-In the section “Gulag-Soviet Penal System” a suggestion: Millions of people were sent to the Gulag…or even taking a few potatoes from a field to eat.

-To add the use of Footnotes throughout additions to the article would present referencing clearer and create a very organized presentation of the article.

-The “Gulag-Soviet Penal System” seems to repeat some of the same information as “Economic Incentives” a revising of the section would clean up the appearance of the article greatly.

-“The Death of Stalin” could be re-named to De-Stalinization, marking the beginning of change when Nikita Khrushchev came into power.

-Overall, this article paints a very good picture of what life was like in the Gulag. It has massive amounts of information that is very interesting, has a nice layout, contains good photos to compliment the different sections, and is a very important article to expand on Wikipedia.JedJaren — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.209.17.254 (talk) 00:25, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Revert
I started editing the text, and slowly realized that this was a result of a childish, soulless product of a student assignment. Drive-by rewriting without care. The result was basically an american teenager's version of wikipedia Gulag article, with minor infusion of other bits and pieces. Once I opened the talk page to explain my revert, I saw that my guess was correct.

I reverted to the stub which clearly indicates a number of underdeveloped topic of penal labor in the Soviet Union.

This is a yet another glaring example of the stupidity of the idea of writing wikipedia via student's assignments without due supervision of a wikipedian who works on the subject. -M.Altenmann >t 04:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

CIA as primary source
CIA as a primary source of very beginning of the article,may question neutrality of the article. Salekin.sami36 (talk) 09:05, 29 July 2023 (UTC)