Talk:Forced orgasm

Photograph
I deleted the photograph, I don't think there's any need for pornography in a Wikipedia article. Alan162 (talk) 23:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC) Try and look for a forced orgasm picture that isn't porn then. it does need a picture, so stop being prudish, it is about forced orgasms so it at least needs a picture or a drawing so people get the idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.30.254 (talk) 19:15, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

THINK FIRST CAUTION !!! This is dangerous, the writer expresses the theories and practice of this styled sexual interaction as if he or she is a medical/scientific authority. Rather than starting from a actual SAFE medical baseline, STRESSING SAFETY AND IDENTIFYING POSSIBLE PHYSICAL DANGERS IN THIS TYPE OF HIGH RISK BEHAVIOR. Especially when physical restraining, "breathing control" and "gagging" is in anyway included in this activity. MEDICAL SAFETY AND BASIC SAFE PRACTICE RULES,ARE TOTALLY IGNORED, "NEVER ENGAGE IN GAGGING", BREATHING CONTROL, FORCED OVER STIMULATION OF THE VAGUS/CARDIAC NERVES (ANAL STIMULATION). If either party has been drinking or using medication or may have health limits... The writer is expressing his or her own concepts based on the writers own individual experiences and ideas. THIS IS HIGH RISK BEHAVIOR WITH NO THOUGHTS EXPRESSED TO ENSURE ANY SAFETY OR SAFE PRACTICE. WITHOUT SOLID REFERENCES AND SAFE GUIDELINES, ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE REMOVED ENTIRELY... This is more like the writers "sexual blog", it is not worthy of "encyclopedia status" in any way ... signed waterrescue116 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterrescue116 (talk • contribs) 04:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't provide medical advice, and we don't need specific disclaimers for every image that portrays potentially dangerous behavior, for example File:Bungie-Jumping.jpg. -- King Öomie 00:42, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

involuntary vs. forced
This article conflates two different sexual terms.


 * "Involuntary orgasm" (currently a redirect to orgasm) is used in scholarly literature for a physiological response to physical manipulation or other stimulation during non-consensual sex or a sexual scenario in which the person experiencing the orgasm is unwilling to participate.


 * "Forced orgasm" is a term of BDSM or other sexual fantasy, used mainly if not only in the context of pornography, either in primary sources or in sources discussing porn. (Notice the difference in results through Google Scholar.) The important distinction is that BDSM or role play is consensual; the submissive has given initial consent to participate. "Forced" is part of the psychological fiction that provides sexual pleasure; the sexual pleasure, however, is desired and intentional. The paragraph in the middle did indeed describe the fiction of "forced orgasm," but had no sourcing whatever, so I deleted it.

The actual scholarship used for this article seem rather to deal with "involuntary orgasm." This material should be perhaps moved elsewhere, as involuntary orgasm doesn't redirect here, but I'm creating a subsection here pointing to the main article. Cynwolfe (talk) 20:40, 16 March 2012 (UTC)