Talk:Ford Taurus

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Self-explanatory; just noticed that it was getting a bit cluttered and outdated. -- SteveCof00 "suggestion box" 07:23, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Reviving a 4+ year old idea that was mine in the first place... how does merge articles?
Back in '11 I had the idea of merging the article on the Ford Taurus SHO into this one. Unfortunately, being a WP n00b (still am), I didn't know how to merge articles (still don't), so the articles are still separate over 4 years later. The idea met with unanimous consent backed up by precedent back then, so should I just go ahead?

The small discussion is #50 in archive #1. Icanhasaccount has an account 05:13, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'd prefer a new discussion. This is simply because one of those users was brand new, one was an IP, and the only vaguely experienced editor of the three actually opposed the move (so no, it wasn't unanimous). Personally, I think the SHO has enough notable differences for a separate article myself, but I'm open to discussion either way. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 11:18, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops, got confused, was looking at the SHO's talk page for a 2009 discussion. I see that the other two edits whom agreed with you were experienced editors. Nevertheless, that discussion came around the time that the sixth-gen SHO came out; as it is so far down the line now, I still think a new discussion is worth having. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 11:20, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Separate I'm looking at the talk page for the SHO article, and while most of it is irrelevant, there is a case for it being different enough to be considered a sub-model of the corresponding generation. Another example for comparison is the Ford Mustang SVT Cobra, which is unlikely to be merged, or the SVT Raptor (which does not have its own article space as of now).  The SHO article has sufficient content to stand on its own and would have to be merged into 4 different articles (each generation produced) rather than this one alone, another reason to say no.--SteveCof00My Suggestion box is open 12:15, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

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Restored paragraph on SHO's "sleeper" characteristics
The paragraph on the SHO's "factory sleeper" characteristics has been removed a second time, but this time after it stood for well over a year. (Clearly by someone who doesn't bother to read the talk section/history of the article!!) I have again restored the paragraph based on the original premise. However, I did update it so it didn't refer to the then-current year (2016) in order to make it stand the test of time. In addition to that, I would like to add that Ford absolutely intended for the car to be a "sleeper" sedan, so a paragraph noting this quality is actually essential to understanding the nature of the SHO. This is a well known fact particularly in the SHO enthusiast community, which worked very hard to bring back the SHO in 2010. There was once a dedicated website for it, which no longer exists, but this page does reference it: https://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/31/bring-back-the-sho-how-about-a-coupe/. The SHO's sleeper nature is also generally well known, as mentioned in the original notes below, just google "Taurus Sleeper" to see what I mean. That characteristic is literally the heart and soul of this vehicle sub-model/trim. Keep in mind (from my original notes below) that I own this vehicle, and while no longer particularly active in the SHO community, so I have a very vivid and recent recollection of the car's history. — Preceding comment added by Rcryniak (talk • contribs) 13:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC) Rcryniak (talk) 13:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

---Original notes on paragraph restoration--- A recent addition I made was undone by another Wikipedian based on the premise that it a "fan forum" wasn't a good resource. I'm a bit of a Wikipedia noob, so I had to think through that, but ultimately I had to agree - it's a source full of opinion, so I get it, and accepted the removal. (Granted most enthusiast sites are chock full of valid information too, but I digress.)

However, the bottom line is that I was surprised that no mention of the SHO's "sleeper"-ness was made, or that it's a very routinely modded vehicle (to enhance that contrast between unassuming exterior and the beast within) and that has been (frankly) one of the defining characteristics of the SHO trim for the Taurus line. People who buy such a car (myself included, as I do own one) often buy it *because* it's a high performance sleeper. It's really quite fun to pull up next to a sports car, Mustang, Camaro, etc., and see the looks on their faces when they get their doors blown off by a "Taurus". It's just... too much fun.

Anyhow, I apologize for the personal anecdote there, but the bottom line is that the sleeper characteristic is a defining one for this car, and I felt that Wikipedia was being hurt by having its Ford Taurus article not include that key fact, when that fact is widely mentioned elsewhere. Just Google "taurus sleeper" and you'll see what I mean. It's absence was felt in this article, so I aimed to correct that.

Again, I agree with removing the "beloved by owners" and the reference to the fan forum, I do get it... so I replaced that with a more noteworthy reference that makes the same point: An article on the sleeper-ish-ness and mod-ability by Road & Track. I hope that's more palatable. — Preceding comment added by Rcryniak (talk • contribs) 03:55, 16 April 2016 (UTC) Rcryniak (talk) 03:59, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

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Article needed for seventh-generation Taurus
Although most information of this version is going to be harder to find through English-language sources, having been sold for over 2 years, it deserves its own article space as well. --SteveCof00 (talk) 08:14, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

We have to do something with the Mercury Sable article
I propose thatMercury Sable be merged into the Taurus generation articles. While the Taurus and Sable have significant cosmetic differences, they are the same vehicle underneath. However, my main concern and reason for this proposal goes to the quality of the article itself. The Sable article is poorly written and just about all of it's content is forked from the individual Ford Taurus generation articles. However, while the Taurus article has been continuously updated and improved, the Sable article has been left dormant. Each individual generation Ford Taurus generation article has a section about the Sable that describes its differences and contains any unique Sable information, thus I think the Sable article would be best shortened with links to the "Mercury Sable" section of each Ford Taurus generation article. However, if we decide to keep them separate article, it will need attention. It may need to be rewritten entirely and likely condensed, with the un necessary redundant information removed and each generation section linking to the individual Ford Taurus generation articles. Reattacollector (talk) 23:32, 9 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Poorly written? For reference, both cars are B-Class articles on their own, which is very hard to find in WikiProject Automobiles--SteveCof00 (talk) 10:35, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Ford Taurus and the Rise of Statistical Process Control at Ford
The Taurus was the first American car to incorporate the statistical methods of W. Edwards Deming in design and manufacture. I've added some info on this to the article under the "first generation" heading. This ought to also be in the lede as well. Sbelknap (talk) 04:22, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

NASCAR and Taurus
This article implies that there is some connection between the Taurus automobile and the race cars which have a "Taurus" skin. Perhaps this section was intended for those who also believe that professional midget wrestling is 100% legitimate. This section should be eliminated unless it can be shown that there is one piece in common between the two. If so much as one bolt or nut is the same, then this part could be mentioned, otherwise I fail to see the value of this section.BrianAlex (talk) 18:02, 28 April 2020 (UTC)