Talk:Foreign fighters in the Bosnian War

Merge into the main Bosnian War article
I've proposed that this be merged into the main Bosnian War article, where the role of foreign volunteers is already noted. Also, articles such as 7th Muslim Brigade seem to cover this sufficently. Cordless Larry 14:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I personally feel that we need a page to sum up the role of foreign fighters-possibly even a catogary as articals such as the 7th Muslim Brigade only look at a small part of there role. Also the subject is only touched upon in the main artical. --88.108.161.10 15:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The suggestion is to merge the articles, not to remove the content from the encyclopedia. Infomation contained in this article will become part of the main article. Hut 8.5 17:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I think we should let it grow. Bosnian War is unwieldy as it is. --estavisti 16:45, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree (i'm the IP address by the way) --Boris Johnson VC 16:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Dear all, I agree with merging it with the overall Bosnian war article. Mainly because The role of foreign fighters in the Bosnian war is a bit of a strange entry in an encyclopedia. As for this making the Bosnian war article too long and unwieldy, I think this only means that the editors of this section will have to do a good job in condensing and prioritizing information. --KarlXII 13:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, since there was no consensus I've removed the merge tag. Cordless Larry 13:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Garibaldi battalion exist?
Does anyone by chance have more information on the Italian volunteers of the Garibaldi battalion that fought as part of the Croatian Defence Council? According to some sources I found there were Italian units in Bosnia that bore the name of Garibaldi, but these were part of the UN peace forces. I know that there were Italian volunteers, among foreign volunteers from other countries, that fought as members of the Croatian armed forces both in the wars in Croatia and Bosnia, but I'm just curious if there really was a special Italian unit in the HVO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.3.229.216 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

~No, there was no independent italian battalion, the author may as you said be confused with italian regulars.Shed1357 (talk) 14:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

~There was a "Viking platoon" consisting of Scandianvian volounteers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.17.87 (talk) 18:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

the Garibaldi Unit fought for croatian serbs, not for croatian.. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/croatian-serbs-recruit-italian-fighters-garibaldi-unit-defies-rome-and-attempts-to-take-back-land-lost-to-yugoslavia-after-second-world-war-1512064.html it was a brigade of volunteers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.235.89.126 (talk) 04:06, 22 October 2012‎


 * (I have re-arranged this talk page section, restoring the 2007 comment and moving today's comment to the end)
 * I have undone today's edit because it broke the formatting of the page. I have no information or opinion to give on the Garibaldi Unit. If you decide to re-arrange this part of the article, please move or copy the whole of the reference, the whole chunk: . See Referencing for beginners. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:41, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

semi-protection until 15 May 2008
See Requests for checkuser/Case/AhmadinV. This page has been the target for a sockpuppet of user:Grandy Grandy so I have protected this page from new users for a month to discourage Grandy Grandy creating any more sockpuppet to continue editing this page. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 00:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Let's get serious
I left my comment on Bosnian Mujahideen talk page. --HarisM (talk) 14:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

As I wrote on talk:Bosnian Mujahideen The trouble is that the version that you HarisM are reverting to is one that was constructed by a now banned user. So what I would like to suggest is that you re-introduce the changes you think should be there one at a time and give time for a consensus to be built around each change. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 10:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

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Role of foreign fighters?
ok new to this, but i can contribute to the accuracy of this article
 * 1) foreign volunteers fought in the croatian war as well as bosnia
 * 2) The article is predominantly about the mujahedeen
 * 3) what has propoganda got to do with it?

can i suggest? cheersShed1357 (talk) 15:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) title change to role of foreign volunteers in the yugoslav/ balkan war- or would it be easier to start another page "foreign fighters of the croatian war"
 * 2) some kind of timeline; muslims and croats fought alongside each other until 93

I agree with you, there are too many irrelevant facts regarding the mujahedeen, and to me this article was written from a somewhat Bosniak point of view. I also think your suggestions are good, many western volunteers, who fought for the Croatian Defence Council in Bosnia, had previously fought in the Croatian Army in Croatia. Now, some interesting facts I found. According to croatie.aceboard.fr, the majority of western volunteer fighters, both in the wars in Croatia and Bosnia, were British, French and German, and a significant number also came from the Netherlands, Hungary, Ireland, USA, Canada and Australia. This article doesn't mention anything about Hungarian, Irish or Australian volunteers. Volunteers from Poland, Italy, Sweden and many other countries came in smaller numbers, and there was certainly no special Italian unit in the HVO. Also, here's a fact you might find peculiar. This article says a huge number of volunteers (or mercenaries) from Ukraine and Bulgaria fought for the Bosnian Serbs. This may or may not be true, but the above-mentioned web page, as well as www.cfiva.org, lists several Ukrainian and Bulgarian volunteers as fighters in the Croatian armed forces. Of course, this doesn't have to mean that more Ukrainians and Bulgarians didn't fight for the Serbs, and everyone is welcome to confirm it if they have reliable sources. A timeline would also be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.244.233 (talk • contribs) 16:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Some comments:
 * Unlikely that Bulgarians fought on the side of the Bosnian Serbs since they were enemies in both world wars
 * the article should be written keeping in mind that it is a sub-article to the Bosnian War article. Also, the rather detailed Bosnian Mujahideen article should be considered/referred to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.224.132.129 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

" For the Bosniaks"
This section starts out by talking about international aid from the West and Islamic countries, it then goes on to link crimes committed against Bosnian Muslim population and the influx of Arab fighters.

'''During the Yugoslav wars, Bosnia-Herzegovina received

humanitarian aid from Islamic countries as well as from the West,

because of intensive and widespread killing, mass rapes, death camps,

ethnic cleansing committed by Serb and, to a lesser extent, Croat

forces. The main targets were Bosnian Muslim civilians. The ICJ

concluded that these crimes, committed during the 1992 -95 war, were

"acts of genocide" and crimes against humanity according to the

Genocide Convention.[1]

Following such massacres, Arab volunteers came across Croatia into

Bosnia to help the Bosnian Army protect the Bosnian Muslim civilian

population. The number of the El-Mudžahid volunteers is still disputed,

from around 300 [2][3] to 1,500.[4]'''

The first paragraph is irrelevant to the theme of the article. There is no evidence that shows that Arab volunteers came to protect the civilian population. There are many documented instances where the presence of the Arab volunteers put the Muslim civilian population on alarm because of their radical views. In no way is there evidence that they took on a "protective" role of any kind; however there is plenty of evidence that shows the opposite where they took on an offensive role in the war. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Strava (talk • contribs) 15:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Ibn Al-Khattab
Having fought in Chechnya, the Tajik civil war, and the war in Bosnia, I think it would be appropriate to mention him. Not sure how yet, but I'll look for some sources. Eik Corell (talk) 16:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

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What is the attitude to the war in Bosnia have the Russian peacekeepers in Croatia? Соколрус (talk) 10:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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Col. Bob Stewart mentions two British "mercenaries" who were fighting for the Moslem BiHA, one of whom was Kevin (Ted) Skinner who had served in the NZ Army, possibly a New Zealander. I am aware that to Yugoslavs, New Zealanders are seen as "English". Ironically the two were reportedly killed by Mujahedin who objected to the presence of Western infidels in their "Holy War". Noel Ellis 09:28, 18 June 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis (talk • contribs)