Talk:Forest of Compiègne

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In French: Ici le 11 novembre 1918 succomba le criminel orgueil de l'Empire allemand vaincu par les peuples libres qu'il prétendait asservir. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spoon! (talk • contribs) 19:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Requested move
Requesting a move to Forest of Compiègne: the new name format would match other existing forest articles, particularly the 2 other important forests near Paris, Forest of Fontainebleau & Forest of Rambouillet. Also: GBooks search for "Compiègne Forest" yields about 1,400 hits while "Forest of Compiègne" yields almost four times as many (5,300+). SteveStrummer (talk) 09:08, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

The Chausée Brunehaut
"... traversed on its south and east sides by an ancient Roman road now called by the French the Chausée Brunehaut". Francis Miltoun may have been mistaken in 1910 in this identification with the Chausée Brunehaut. Do other sources support this placement of the Roman road?--Wetman (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2011 (UTC)


 * "Le nom de « chaussée Brunehaut » est donné dès le Moyen Âge à plusieurs routes dont l’origine n'est pas définie. Généralement longues et rectilignes, elles semblent avoir relié les cités de la Gaule belgique."
 * http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_c2JHCK7uisJ:fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauss%C3%A9e_Brunehaut+Chauss%C3%A9e+Brunehaut&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
 * --Frania W. (talk) 19:04, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

An error regarding the ownership of the railcar by Napolean III
The current text says: For the 1918 meeting, the French had specifically assembled the train with a special railcar which had once belonged to Napoleon III. The car was decorated with old Imperial emblems, redolent of past glories and mutely confirming the resurgence of French power after its defeat in the Franco-Prussian War. After the armistice of 1940, however, the railway carriage was remanded to Germany where it was eventually destroyed by SS troops in Crawinkel, Thuringia, in 1945, and the remains were buried.

The railcar belonging to Napoleon III and the one used for the talk and later remanded to Germany are in fact two different railcars. The railcar used for talks could not have been used by Napoleon III because according to all reliable accounts it was manufactured in 1913 by Compagnie Internationale des Wagons-Lits which was only founded in 1872, two years after Napolean III's defeat.

I think the confusion here was due to a misreading of the reference given in the text for The Greatest Day in History. A short search (for Napoleon) shows that Napoleon III's car was in fact just used to bring the German delegation to the site after they reached France, and that the talks themselves were held in the 1913 carriage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaadir (talk • contribs) 22:46, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Just rewrote the text here to: For bringing the German delegation to the 1918 meeting, the French had specifically assembled the train with a special railcar which had once belonged to Napoleon III. The car was decorated with old Imperial emblems, redolent of past glories and mutely confirming the resurgence of French power after its defeat in the Franco-Prussian War in 1870. After the armistice of 1940, the railway carriage used for the armistice talks (manufactured in 1913) was remanded to Germany where it was eventually destroyed by SS troops in Crawinkel, Thuringia, in 1945, and the remains were buried.

I'm not a native English speaker though, so please feel free to rewrite. Perhaps it's best to remove the reference to the Napolean III car altogether to avoid confusion? Aaadir (talk) 22:56, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Waffenstillstand gr.jpg