Talk:Forest raven/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 12:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll take this one, now I know a bit more about ravens in Australia after all... FunkMonk (talk) 12:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * There's a lot of single sentence paragraphs in this article that I'm not used to seeing elsewhere. Not a problem I guess, but just thought I'd bring it up.
 * agree this is a bit of an issue - the species is alot less studied than the Australian raven, so can't assume (or use) nearly as much. I'll have a go at some melding after another read-through. have done some melding now. hope it flows ok Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:42, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Perhaps the cladogram could be moved to the right? Again, not a big issue, but now it clashes with the header and image below.
 * tried moving up - on right on a wide screen it bumps into taxobox. Bit of a headache we can have all screen widths. Will have a jig of this a bit later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:44, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Perhaps the taxobox image could get a caption for clarification?
 * added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:42, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "John Latham had described the south-seas raven" I'd expect quote marks for that name, otherwise it is a bit unclear that it (perhaps) refers to the subject of the article. Also, shouldn't South Seas be capitalised in the name? FunkMonk (talk) 13:25, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "the specimen resembles what is now known as the Tasmanian raven" Shouldn't the common name used in the title be used throughout?
 * done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "Although the term refers to Tonga" Could be a bit more clear what "the term" is.
 * have changed "term" to "the Friendly Isles", though woirried is a little repetitive - did muse upon "geographical term" as well...would that do? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Fine for me, problem was just that there was little clue as to what was meant.


 * "Gmelin gave the species the name" Why not full name and link?
 * accident - might have happened when rejigging. fixed now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "described the forest raven as a distinct subspecies Corvus marianae tasmanicus" But what is Corvus marianae then?
 * Corvus marianae is an alternate binomial coined by Gregory Mathews (a notorious splitter) for the Australian raven. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:39, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Could this be stated in parenthesis or something? Left me wondering, and the name does not appear to redirect to anything... FunkMonk (talk) 12:33, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * added name and footnote explanation now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:43, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "as the overlap in size is large and the difference in size small" Isn't either of these redundant?
 * the first does not automatically assume the second I would have thought (you could have things of quite different sizes with significant overlap...?) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't Conservation be under relations with humans?
 * I often put it under distribution and habitat as one often talks of overall population and population changes so it strikes me as being a natural flow. I think it flows better there than under the relationships with humans....but don't feel hugely strongly about it I guess.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "Birds breed later in Tasmania than they do on mainland Australia, though the species has been little-studied." What is meant with the last part of the sentence? Its breeding has been little studied?
 * its overall behaviour as well as breeding has been alot less studied than other Australian corvids Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't it be stated at the start of the behaviour section then? Now it's kind of hidden way down.
 * shifted up now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:26, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "with loose throat feathers and being found in "the Friendly Isles" Structure seems a bit odd to me, but perhaps it's alright...
 * I can see why but can't think of another way to phrase it - these are two key attributes in identifying it but are quite disparate Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The last paragraph under feeding overlaps quit a bit with parts of Relationship with humans.
 * tried to reduce overlap of material. Is that enough? Tricky as the material really cuts across two areas. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:56, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "but restricted to more closed forest on mainland Australia." But is?
 * fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "however appear to be nested" However they?
 * yep/fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * As the intro should summarise the article, I'd expect a bit about breeding?
 * yep/added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:00, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * "The plumage is a glossy black, with a blue or green sheen visible on upper plumage, there is no seasonal variation in plumage." Plumage becomes a bit repetitive (three time sin a sentence), any way to vary it?
 * rejigged - added "entirely" but not sure whether redundant. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:30, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Nice, most of these were nitpicks, so will pass now. FunkMonk (talk) 00:57, 6 February 2015 (UTC)