Talk:Forestry

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Plantation timber is a renewable source thats harvested using sustainable forestry practices. The available timber differs substantially from region to region.

Yes, I am considering placing more details about conservation concepts in commercial forestry concerns. If anyone has any ideas or refs I'd be grateful. Harristweed 04:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Forest education [Foricos]
After a brief Google search for 'Foricos', the main reference appears to be to a yearling thoroughbred foal. It appears that the foal is from an impeccable bloodline however I can't find a link to forestry. Can the editor who added this term give a definition please?The Boy that time forgot 20:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I've removed it. The Boy that time forgot 21:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I alphabetize the organizations and added the Forest Guild. Obviously there are hundreds of other organizations that could be included. I will try to add some of the larger ones soon. --Zanderevans 17:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)Zander Evans

hey shouldn't there be a part of forestry on the harmful effects on nature —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrodieD (talk • contribs) 15:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Forestry colleges in South America
"In South America the first forestry school was established in Brazil, specifically in Viçosa, Minas Gerais, and later moved to Curitiba, Paraná.[2]" The link indicates that the School was founded in 1962. If that is so, the statement is incorrect, the forestry school at the University of Chile started in 1952: http://www.forestal.uchile.cl/presentacion/datoshistoricos.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.207.66.62 (talk) 17:44, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily so, the article tells you "that between 1960 and 1965 (the departments of) Silvicultura, Tecnologia de la Madera y el de Manejo y Economia Forestal were opened. So it is between 1960 and 1965, not actually in 1952. Whatever 1960 to 1965 may mean, it doesn't mean 1952 when the actual university of Forest engineering (whatever that means) was founded. Dieter Simon (talk) 23:35, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


 * See: List of historic schools of forestry. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:46, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

First forestry school in the United States?
Claims are made for three separate schools that they were the first/ oldest school of forestry in the United States: Biltmore Forest School, the New York State College of Forestry at Cornell, and the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies. Biltmore apparently had a one-year program, the NYS College of Forestry a four-year program, plus fifth year professional masters, and Yale was founded as a post-graduate school. Which was first? DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:57, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Resolved. Biltmore was first, officially starting up on September 1, 1898, about three weeks before the New York State College of Forestry at Cornell University. Yale, which opened two years later, was the first postgraduate school of forestry in the US.DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies calls itself the oldest continuously running forestry school in the US. --Eli Sagor (talk) 01:00, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Lead section
Despite the Society of American Foresters definition, the science of forestry is not exclusive to sustainable methods only. Any permanent change in a forest would likely not fall under that definition, yet their are innummerable examples of such policies endorsed by forestry. Jacob036 (talk) 02:00, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Forestry is defined as a profesion. I think this should be modified, because it is not really such, but rather an activity. Forester is a profesion, like carpenter, but carpentry is an activity.--Auró (talk) 21:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Forestry in Germany
In Germany exists an organization (est. 1948) named 'Arbeitsgemeinschaft Deutscher Waldbesitzerverbände e.V.' (www.agdw.org)

It is a lobbying group representing the interests of private forest owners and communes / municipalities owning forests. There are also the 'Confederation of European Forest Owners' (CEPF) and the 'European State Forest Association' (EUSTAFOR). http://www.cepf-eu.org/    http://www.eustafor.eu/

"Engagierte Interessenvertretung in Deutschland, Europa und auf internationalem Parkett Die AGDW vertritt gegenüber dem Deutschen Bundestag, dem Bundesrat, den Ministerien, der Wirtschaft, der Wissenschaft und auch in Gremien anderer Verbände die Interessen des Privat- und Kommunalwaldes. Auf internationaler und verstärkt auf europäischer Ebene ist die AGDW in zahlreichen Institutionen aktiv und setzt sich für die Rechte der Waldbesitzer ein. Die europäische sowie internationale Forstpolitik und Normsetzung gestaltet die AGDW vor allem als Mitglied im Zentralverband der Europäischen Waldbesitzer (CEPF) und in der Internationalen Allianz für Familienforstwirtschaft (IFFA). ("

Germany has 357.121 km2 ; about 10.000 of it (30 %) are covered by forests (as a comparison: 52 % agriculture). One sq km has - per average - 33.000 Festmeter wood on it (in woods owned by privateers: 34.500 Festmeter). Every year, 1100 Festmeter per sw km grow additionally. Thus, over 120 Million Festmeter grow and could be harvested within a Sustainable forest management (dt. nachhaltige Forstwirtschaft).

In the article, I would appreciate having a table saying how many sq km are covered in each european country and how much of the surface is covered by wood.

--Neun-x (talk) 11:01, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


 * See: List of countries by forest area. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:44, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Forest science
Forest science currently redirects to this article. There is one brief section here, "As a science," but this is barely a stub. Expansion needed! Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:49, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


 * In fact Forest science could also redirect to silviculture. I think that the terms forestry and silviculture are sufficiently similar and equivalent, as to admit that the present articles be merged in one. There are languages, like French, Spanish, Catalan, etc in which only one term exists. Both articles of the English Wikipedia are linked to only one article in the French Wikipedia (silviculture).--Auró (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Forest(ry) law
Forest(ry) law goes back centuries, not just from the 20th century as currently suggested here. Correction needed. The article on forest law needs help, too! Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 02:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Is that long list with "further reading" adding any value?
I suggest to cull or remove the further reading list. It looks like an arbitrary list of older textbooks, does it really add much value? EMsmile (talk) 10:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * After nobody responded to this in the last 2 years I've gone ahead and deleted this list: EMsmile (talk) 09:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

United States

 * Brinkley, Douglas G. (2009) The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America, (2009) excerpt and text search
 * Blumm, Michael C. (2017) "The Nation's First Forester-in-Chief: The Overlooked Role of FDR and the Environment." Journal of Land Use & Environmental Law 33 (2017): 25–60.
 * Burley, Jeffery, et al. eds. (2004) Encyclopedia of forest sciences (4 vol. Elsevier Academic Press, 2004); comprehensive global coverage in 2100 pages.
 * Cox, Thomas R., et al. This well-wooded land: Americans and their forests from colonial times to the present (1985) online
 * Cox, Thomas R. "Americans and their forests: Romanticism, progress, and science in the late nineteenth century." Journal of Forest History 29.4 (1985): 156-168. online
 * Davis, Richard C. Encyclopedia of American forest and conservation history (1983) vol 1 online see also 2 online, 871pp. See online review of this book
 * Eyle, Alexandra. (1992). Charles Lathrop Pack: Timberman, Forest Conservationist, and Pioneer in Forest Education. Syracuse, NY: ESF College Foundation and College of Environmental Science and Forestry. Distributed by Syracuse University Press. Available: Internet Archive.
 * Fernow, Bernhard E. (1911) A Brief History of Forestry in Europe, the United States and Other Countries (Toronto, 1911)
 * Flader, Susan. (1974) Thinking Like a Mountain: Aldo Leopold and the Evolution of an Ecological Attitude toward Deer, Wolves, and Forests (U of Missouri Press, 1974).
 * Foster, David, and John Aber, eds. (2004)  Forests in Time: The Environmental Consequences of 1,000 years of Change in New England (Yale University Press, 2004).
 * Fraser, Alastair. Achieving the Sustainable Management of Forests (Springer, 2019)
 * Hammond, Herbert. (1991). Seeing the Forest Among the Trees. (Winlaw/Vancouver: Polestar Press, 1991).
 * Miller, Char, ed. (1997) American Forests: Nature, Culture, and Politics (UP of Kansas).
 * Miller, G. Tyler. (1990). Resource Conservation and Management. (Belmont: Wadsworth Publishing).
 * Pinkett, Harold T. Gifford Pinchot: Private and Public Forester (U of Illinois Press, 1970).
 * Pyne, Stephen. Fire in America: A Cultural History of Wildland and Rural Fire (Princeton UP, 1982). online


 * Sayen, Jamie. (2023) Children of the Northern Forest: Wild New England's History from Glaciers to Global Warming (Yale UP, 2023). the story of northern New England’s undeveloped forests
 * Steen, Harold K. The US forest service: A centennial history (University of Washington Press, 2013).
 * Stoddard, Charles H. (1978). Essentials of Forestry. New York: Ronald Press.
 * Stroud, Ellen. (2010) "Who Cares About Forests? How Forest History Matters." in A Companion to American Environmental History ed. by Douglas Cazaux Sackman (2010): 410-424. online
 * Williams, Michael. (1989) Americans and Their Forests: A Historical Geography (Cambridge UP)


 * Williams, Michael. "Clearing the United States forests: pivotal years 1810–1860," Journal of Historical Geography 8#1 (1982) 12–28. online

World

 * Angelstam, Per K., et al. (1997) "Biodiversity and sustainable forestry in European forests: how East and West can learn from each other." Wildlife Society Bulletin (1997): 38-48. online
 * Basnyat, Bijendra. (2009) "Impacts of demographic changes on forests and forestry in Asia and the Pacific." (Bangkok, FAO of the United Nations Regional Office for Asia and the Pacific, 2009).
 * Burley, Jeffery, et al. eds. (2004) Encyclopedia of forest sciences (4 vol. Elsevier Academic Press, 2004); comprehensive global coverage in 2100 pages.
 * Coogan, Sean CP, et al. (2021) "Fifty years of wildland fire science in Canada." Canadian Journal of Forest Research 51.2 (2021): 283-302. online
 * Couto, L., and F. Dube. (2001) "The status and practice of forestry in Brazil at the beginning of the 21st century: A review." The Forestry Chronicle 77.5 (2001): 817-830. online
 * Dauvergne, Peter. (1997) Shadows in the forest: Japan and the politics of timber in Southeast Asia (MIT Press, 1997). online
 * Drushka, Ken. (2003) Canada's forests: a history (McGill-Queen's Press-MQUP, 2003) online.
 * Fernow, Bernhard E. (1911) A Brief History of Forestry in Europe, the United States and Other Countries (Toronto, 1911)
 * Harrison, Robert Pogue. (1992) Forests: The Shadow of Civilization (U of Chicago Press, 1992)
 * Hart, C. (1994). Practical Forestry for the Agent and Surveyor. (Stroud, UK. Sutton Publishing). ISBN 0-86299-962-6
 * Hibberd, B.G. (Ed). (1991). Forestry Practice. (Forestry Commission Handbook 6. London. HMSO). ISBN 0-11-710281-4
 * Langston, Nancy. (2005). "On Teaching World Forest History," Environmental History 10#1: 20–29
 * Liu, Jinlong, et al. (1994) "Comparative study of the forest transition pathways of nine Asia-Pacific countries." in Forest Policy and Economics 76 (2017): 25-34. online
 * McCann, James C. (1999) Green Land, Brown Land, Black Land: An Environmental History of Africa, 1800–1990 (Heinemann, 1999)
 * Mahli, Yadvinder, and Oliver Phillips, eds. (2005) Tropical Forests and Global Atmospheric Change (Oxford UP, 2005)
 * Manning, William J. (2020) Trees and Global Warming: The Role of Forests in Cooling and Warming the Atmosphere (Cambridge UP, 2020)
 * Maser, Chris. (1994). Sustainable Forestry: Philosophy, Science, and Economics (elRay Beach: St. Lucie Press).
 * Oliveira, Athila Leandro de, et al. (2020) "Forest replacement in Brazil: a fundamental policy for forestry." Floresta e Ambiente 27 (2020). online
 * Oosthoek, K. Jan, and Richard Hölzl (eds.) (2019). Managing Northern Europe's Forests. Histories from the Age of Improvement to the Age of Ecology (New York/Oxford: Berghahn Publ.)
 * Radkau, Joachim (2011) Wood: A History, ISBN 978-0-7456-4688-6, Polity
 * Roberts, D. G. (2008) "Globalisation and its implications for the Indian forest sector." International Forestry Review 10.2 (2008): 401-413.


 * Vira, B. et al. (2015). Forests and Food: Addressing Hunger and Nutrition Across Sustainable Landscapes. (Cambridge: Open Book Publishers). online.
 * Williams, Michael. (2003) Deforesting the Earth: From Prehistory to Global Crisis (U of Chicago Press).

Aspects of climate change impacts?
I think aspects of climate change impacts need to come out more strongly, e.g. how increased droughts, extreme weather, pests etc. affect the yields of forestry. We could have a short summary and then link to the relevant sub-article. But do we have a relevant sub-article yet? If so, where? I am suggested to upgrade the effects of climate change on agriculture sub-article to also include forestry aspects, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Effects_of_climate_change_on_agriculture#Expand_scope_and_rename_to_%22Effects_of_climate_change_on_agriculture_and_forestry%22?. But maybe it's already covered in another sub-article that I am not aware of yet? - The link to climate change from the mitigation perspective (see deforestation and climate change) should also come out more clearly.EMsmile (talk) 10:47, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * See here for further discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Climate_change#How_to_clean_up_the_mess_around_trees_and_mitigation? EMsmile (talk) 09:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Forest Ecosystem Services
Forests provide a wide range of ecosystem services. In addition to providing food, fuel and fiber, forests clean the air, filter water supplies, control floods and erosion, sustain biodiversity and genetic resources, and provide opportunities for recreation, education, and cultural enrichment. Sequestering (or releasing) carbon is a form of climate regulation, which is another important ecosystem service provided by forests. Stnts256 (talk) 06:06, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Feel free to edit the article and please remember to cite your sources. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:44, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Sustainable forestry and climate change debate
Hi, are any of the page watchers interested in the link of sustainable forestry to biomass energy and climate change mitigation? If so, perhaps you can help streamline the article on biomass. It has this section on the forest biomass debate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomass#The_forest_biomass_debate. Wondering if some of that content ought to be moved here. I've put the same note on the talk page of sustainable forest management. Looking for interested people who could help with this editing work. EMsmile (talk) 10:41, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * See here for further discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Climate_change#How_to_clean_up_the_mess_around_trees_and_mitigation? EMsmile (talk) 09:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

How does this article relate to forest management?
Please see on the talk page of forest management a discussion on how these two articles relate with each other. EMsmile (talk) 09:21, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Move history section to forest management
I think a lot of the content that is here in the history section would probably fit better at forest management. Isn't that content mainly about the history of forest management, rather than the scientific aspects that we said would be at forestry? EMsmile (talk) 09:47, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've moved the history section to forest management now. EMsmile (talk) 08:28, 18 July 2024 (UTC)