Talk:Formula Three

'special races'
Woudl the most appropriate term for these be 'non-championship' races? This has historically been the term used for these kinds of events falling outside the F1, F2 and F3 championship calendars. 'End of season' is also informally used to describe, for example, Macau. 4u1e 10:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * It could be, but in recent times, at least, a non-championship race usually is entered only by the competitors in some championship, but not for points (like V8 Supercars at the Australian Grand Prix meeting, or the Bud Shootout for Nextel Cup competitors). These "special races" are entered by drivers and teams drawn from many championships. Would you call the 24 Hours of Le Mans race a non-championship race, or a special race? --Scott Davis Talk 11:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Special's a matter of opinion. Non-championship is verifiable fact. Pete Fenelon 20:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Schumachers in F3
There's a statement in the article that both Schumachers competed in Japanese F3 - I think this is wrong. Both competed in Japanese F3000 (Michael for one race only, Ralf for a championship winning season), but I don't think they competed in the lower formula. 4u1e 07:56, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * 4u1e is correct. http://forix.autosport.com/driver.php?l=0&r=1969010300&c=0 and http://www.mschumacher.com/history.html back that up, so I have amended the article accordingly. Adrian M. H. 18:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Categories section
Re: the last part of this section, about Kubica. If the criteria for "the most recent F3 driver to race in F1" is simply that they passed through an F3 series - rather than graduated directly from it - then Lewis Hamilton or possibly Heikki Kovalainen should now be mentioned in lieu of Kubica. If a stricter definition - drivers who have graduated directly from F3 - were to be applied, then this should mention Takuma Sato or Antony Davidson (albeit via testing work) instead. Kubica came to F1 via the World Series by Renault while Kovalainen and Hamilton have arrived via GP2. Actually, some sort of table showing F3 graduates in F1 would be good. Adrian M. H. 17:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Curiouser & Curiouser
"Perhaps the most curious of all was the small All-Japan Formula Three championship." How? Trekphiler 05:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Chassis suppliers
No mention of Mygale? Or the Ligier-Martini collaboration? That's before you include previous chassis that have been inexplicably omitted. I will give this whole article a re-write as soon as possible. - Adrian M. H. 21:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Toyota Racing Series
Why is Toyota Racing Series included in the list of Formula 3 series? The series doesn't use F3 cars (ok, neither does Chilean F3...) and doesn't even claim to be a F3 series (like the Chilean "F3"). It's only connection to F3, is the fact, that Tatuus monocoque was designed to match FIA F3 safety regulations. If that makes it F3, then why all other similar series like FR2000, Formula Challenge Japan, Formula Abarth, Formula Master etc aren't listed here? 91.155.238.81 (talk) 14:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I totally agree. It should not be included. GTHO (talk) 22:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Many domestic 'formula' regulations are explicitly based on F3 and inherit the basic definitions from the contemporary FIA document. An example would be the mid 1970's British Formula Atlantic regulations which explicitly call the FIA Appendix J, F3 of the day. Onto these, the amended dimensions, weights and engine specifications and homologation rules are added. In the early Eighties, the British and European championships specified different wheel and tire sizes by local regulation. At some point in between these examples lies the Toyota Racing Series (and many other series like the British Monoposto Formula).78.18.138.219 (talk) 13:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Chile
Is the Chilean Formula 3 championship still active? I can't find anything about it.Tvx1 17:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Structure of article and history of formula.
What a terrible article! The structure is terrible and detailing is worse. Above all, some structured history of the regulations is needed. There is no mention of the commencement date of the current formula! There is no mention of the evolution of elements of the formula other than the very basics of the engine.

Also worthy of mention is that F3 really is a "formula" of regulations like F1, unlike most other single-seat classes using the 'formula' handle. "Formula" implies that the entrant is free to create their own 'solution' rather than purchase prescribed single-source equipment.

(BTW, the "Ralt RT 3" pictured is not an RT 3 but a later RT30 series flat-bottom car.)78.18.138.219 (talk) 13:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Formula Regional
Is it really still the case that we need to enlist all Formula Regional series on this site too? They got their own wikipedia page and just confuse people that want to read into the topic. Based on the fact that the category as a whole is not mentioned anywhere but in the series list should show how detached FRegional actually is from F3. Also removing them would improve readability a lot.

Just my two cents, would love to hear other opinions about it! 91.119.52.132 (talk) 15:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Technically, the official name of the category is "Regional Formula 3" as per the FIA regulations.
 * https://www.fia.com/file/76698/download/19614
 * The "Formula Regional" is marketing brand to avoid confusion with international F3.
 * I suggest to do like in French wikipedia: make another table/chapter dedicated to Formula Regional - with the link to the article. 5W (talk) 16:21, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Didn't even know that the FIA still names it that way. They're truly a mess, but I guess that' what we have to work with.
 * That looks indeed like a good approach, I'd prefer that a lot to the current list. It's absolutely chaotic imho. FisicoF1 (talk) 16:54, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Different series different regulations single reference
Formula 3 is a name used to refer to many different series.

Including regional series such as Formula 3 euro series which eventually became Formula Regional European Championship, British Formula 3 which eventually sort of became GB3 and also... For the international FIA formula 3 championship which used to be called GP3, and seen sharing F1 track on some weekends.

There is a variety of set of regulations.

So if someone says that the 2.0 used in UK's GB3 pulls 380 horsepowers? You don't know what your talking about. GB3 cars might have 240 horsepower from memory (arf, maybe a tad more come to think about).

The FREC might have 280? I'm going from memory.

And don't start me with the Chilean formula 3 and their 1.6 liter engine.

But the 3.4 in FIA Formula 3 championship gets 380 hp.

This is a source of confusion to many people. This article doesn't help. 209.226.75.156 (talk) 17:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC)