Talk:Fortune (Chris Brown album)

Edit request from, 18 October 2011
There should be a song called Calypso added to the list of recorded songs because it will more then likely be on the album

Schutze23 (talk) 22:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately more then likely is not enough unless there are sources confirming that it is on the album. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 02:39, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Germany Release Date?
I don't know, just look for yourself and decide if it's legit or not.

http://musicjustice.net/2012/01/chris-brown-sets-fortune-release-date/


 * The third party sources in which the article is based on looks legitimate. (The source: ). I feel this is an important piece that should be added to the article. -- User:2nyte 12:51, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Oz   talk  08:56, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Nas Collaboration
Nas is going to be on the album, I think it's worth mentioning. Chris's tweet about it is included in the article.

http://www.rap-up.com/2012/01/20/chris-brown-enlists-nas-for-fortune/
 * ✅ Oz   talk  00:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

--76.23.79.50 (talk) 23:47, 26 January 2012 (UTC)Hello == Source Replacement for 9 & 10 ==

The source you put on for the "One Of Those Nights" single is all wrong. Even though when you click on it, it shows the song, it's only because its in 'WebCited' form. Which only snapshots what you're citing. If you click on the proper link (on the actual website) the song is no longer listed.

Proof: http://www.allaccess.com/top40-rhythmic/future-releases — Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicMusic101 (talk • contribs) 20:07, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That's because the All Access website gets updated each week. Songs mentioned in the list are not going to stay on the website forever lol. Oz   talk  20:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Second Single
Chris Brown has just stated via his twitter account the second single will be released on January 26, with the title Turn Up The Music; "New FORTUNE single coming 1/26!!! "TURN UP THE MUSIC"!!!!!!". -- User:2nyte 6:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Please do not use Twitter as a source as it is not reliable for Wikipedia. Read WP:RELIABLE. Oz   talk  12:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Single Cover & Release
According to Billboard, "Turn Up The Music" will be available for digital download on February 14th. It also has the single cover attached to it.

http://www.billboard.com/news/chris-brown-releases-turn-up-the-music-single-1005992172.story#/news/chris-brown-releases-turn-up-the-music-single-1005992172.story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 23:41, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Oz   talk  23:53, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Lead single
There are so many reliable sources calling "Turn Up the Music" the first single from Fortune. See Billboard, MTV News and Capital FM are some examples. And reliable sources such as Digital Spy and RTT News are calling "Strip" a buzz single. I guess Brown's record label decided to change "Strip" to a buzz single because it flopped on the charts. Promotional recording states, "The term buzz single is sometimes used by the artists or the record label whose single(s) have performed below expectations. Referring to such singles later as a "buzz singles", regardless of the accuracy of the statement. This has the effect of downplaying the commercial failure of the single and preventing damage to the artist's reputation and the label." Oz  talk  04:10, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Another Leak
A song that was Chris's leaked called "Touch Me" ft. Se7en and it will be on his album. He tweeted the lyrics then deleted them at one point.

http://thelavalizard.com/2012/01/new-song-chris-brown-touch-me-like-u-touchin-urself-ft-se7en-snippet/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 21:47, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Oz   talk  22:16, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

U.S. Date?
The album is still listed to come out in Germany on the 16th on your source but VEVO is placing the album under an April release date. Don't know if you'll want to include that but ultimately, I think the date is subject to change because of all the leaks and as soon as I find an article I'll post it.

http://blog.vevo.com/2012-album-preview-15-albums-were-looking-forward-to/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 22:05, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Oz   talk  03:25, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Fortune
There is a description of the "Fortune" album in the article

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1678207/chris-brown-fortune-producers-underdogs.jhtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 19:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Oz   talk  22:49, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

New Song
http://923now.radio.com/2012/02/04/chris-browns-i-love-you-hits-the-net-listen-now/

Another leak called "I Love You" that will be on the album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 14:55, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Oz   talk  21:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Rlease
You might really wanna double check the reliability of that Germany release date you posted. The fact that the UK doesn't get "Turn Up The Music" until March 26th should make it obvious that that album's not gonna see the light of day ANYWHERE before April. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 00:19, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we should just wait until March 16 passes. If its not released in Germany on that date, then we can remove it. Oz   talk  04:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Official Release Date and Album Cover
The release date AND the official album cover are finally out. May 8th 2012 is the date, so can you take March 16th off?

http://cbreezy.com/2012/02/chris-browns-fortune-official-album-cover/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 22:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Oz   talk  01:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

UK Release Date
The UK gets the album a day earlier, on the 7th.

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/29866035/Fortune/Product.html?searchstring=chris+brown+fortune&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 23:44, 3 March 2012 (UTC) ✅ Oz   talk  01:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

France Release Date
The release date for "Fortune" is May 7th in France and 99% sure it's May 4th in Germany but I just can't find an article for it.

http://www.chrisbrownworld.com/fr/news/d%C3%A9couvrez-la-cover-de-fortune-le-nouvel-album-de-chris-brown — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.79.50 (talk) 21:14, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Oz   talk  03:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

New Promotional Image
A new promotional image for the upcoming album was released. http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1942413501/image.jpg It includes the song titles Strip, Turn Up the Music and Don't Wake Me Up. Does this indicate that these songs are confirmed? -- User:2nyte 7:33, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there a reliable source about the image because I can't use the source you provided. If it really is a promotional image for the album, then yes those songs are confirmed. But let's just wait until the full track listing is revealed before we make any changes to the article. Oz   talk  09:26, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Italian Release Date
Italy will get this album the same day as the U.S. on the 8th.

http://www.chrisbrownworld.com/it/news/il-nuovo-album-di-chris-brown-fortune-uscir%C3%A0-l8-maggio (MusicMusic101 (talk) 13:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC))
 * ✅ Oz   talk  20:21, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Next Single
According to this article the official next single to this album is "Sweet Love". Can you add it to the list of singles? Here's the single cover for the song. Oh and this article also says that "Strip" will be on the album.

http://www.rap-up.com/2012/03/30/single-cover-chris-brown-sweet-love/ (71.193.113.65 (talk) 12:39, 2 April 2012 (UTC))
 * Already mentioned in the article. All that's waiting is a digital or radio release date. Oz   talk  12:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

'Sweet Love' release date
User:Ozurbanmusic stated the release date of the single Sweet Love will be April 17, though has no source to confirm this. Amazon does state the single will be released on April 13. Source: http://www.amazon.com/Sweet-Love/dp/B007RL6U4A/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333892596&sr=301-1 -- User:2nyte 11:55, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I was not the user who added the April 17 date to the article in the first place. And if you look at the green box at the top right corner of that source it says April 17. Singles are NOT released in the US on Fridays (April 13). Its either Mondays or Tuesdays (April 17). Oz   talk  20:51, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Push back?
There is a bit of confusion about the release date because a lot of people are suspecting a push back. The official Sony newsletter for Germany says that it won't be released there until June 22nd instead of May 4th. Reliable? You can chose but I still think the album will be pushed back until June. Won't be announced until later though.

http://schattenblick.org/infopool/musik/fakten/mflb3176.html (71.193.113.65 (talk) 11:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC))
 * That could be the Germany release date because it mentions that "Turn Up the Music" was released on April 6. We should wait for a press release from his record label. Oz   talk  20:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Confirmed New Date
Chris just announced through Twitter that Fortune will be released on July 3rd. There are multiple sources, and here's one.

http://singersroom.com/content/2012-04-22/Chris-Brown-Pushes-Fortune-Release-to-July/

Australia
The source you used for Australia's release date says that the album comes out on July 6th there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.215.98.141 (talk) 23:28, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

iTunes Bonus
Polow Da Don went on Twitter to confirm "Calypso" as an iTunes Bonus Track. And also the purple cover is for the DELUXE version, not the standard.

http://www.tapemastersinc.net/2012/05/29/chris-brown-reveals-final-fortune-tracklisting/

Tweet link: https://twitter.com/PolowDaDon/status/207475260273078272 (98.215.98.141 (talk) 01:13, 30 May 2012 (UTC))

Full Production Credits
http://www.chrisbrownworld.com/us/news/chris-brown-reveals-official-fortune-tracklisting — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.215.98.141 (talk) 21:45, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Japan Bonus "Your World"
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4979123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.188.163.138 (talk) 12:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 June 2012
The release date is scheduled for Tuesday, July 3 2012, not June 29 2012. http://www.amazon.com/Fortune-Deluxe-Version-Chris-Brown/dp/B007FZ7R7W

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chris-brown-album-fortune-drake-341349

http://www.myplaydirect.com/chris-brown/?cid=lg:mja

98.220.81.55 (talk) 05:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Per MOS:ALBUM, the album's first release date should only be in the infobox and that is June 29. The July 3 date is for the US and Canada. There is a table in the 'Release history' section of this article with different release dates. Oz   talk  05:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Jermaine Jackson
"Biggest Fan" in the track listing credits Jermaine Jackson with a link to the guy from the Jackson 5 when it should not link to anyone since the Jermaine Jackson who co-wrote the song is part of "The Runners" production team. Two different people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.74.107 (talk) 02:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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Music and lyrics section
I don't exactly know how in this world this section was given the green light in the latest GA review with the prose that it has. I'm not at all defending the subject matter of the songs on this record, but I know that on Wikipedia the policy is neutral point of view and beyond the second sentence this is definitely not that. Like I said months ago when I tagged it the first time, it is by all means well-cited and does reflect the views of many sources on the content, but it does NOT synthesize the information in those sources that describes the musical and lyrical content in an unbiased manner. Though it does talk about the content itself (albeit from a clearly negative POV), it also states subjective interpretations/opinions as facts and is full of editorializing. As a result, the voice of the prose comes across far more like something from a piece by The Guardian rather than an album article on Wikipedia.

If you'd like to dismiss me as some huge Breezy fan/defender (which I'm not) and/or leave it exactly the way it is because I'm wrong and there is no issue with it whatsoever – understand that this is perfectly fine with me since it wouldn't affect me in any way. All I'm doing is acting in the interest of WP, not any particular entity, since it's not a good precedent if there are pockets of the site where WP:POV is allowed and encouraged due to the consensus view/decision amongst editors that the relevant content is morally objectionable and must be decried, even though really, consensus is meant to uphold the five pillars – and by no coincidence, one of those very pillars is that Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view. At its core, this is so that no unequal weight is given to ANY particular point of view as to allow the reader to apply what they've read to decide on the correct perspective for themselves, from their own POV.

Now, you can say that for this particular example POV isn't a factor because it IS just stating facts, and you would be more or less correct and I'd agree – but ultimately, the WAY it states them here just isn't very encyclopedic. I welcome any dicussion on this matter, thanks! Coderenius (☎) 21:16, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Pinging and  in this discussion. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 10:28, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Since Kyle Peake and Nice4What are not gonna response to this, I say change it. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 08:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Opening discussion on vandalism, cherrypicking and editorial bias on this article
There is a pattern of blatant vandalism and cherrypicking on this article whereby conseriable sourced content is being removed without justification or any sound explination. Moreover, cherrypicking is being done to selectively highlight only negative reception, thereby violating WP:NPOV. It's quite sad to see this kind of editorial biased, which is consistent with the editorial bias present on other album articles of said artist. Failure to provide justification for all these changes on this talk page will result in the article being reverted to its prior state before the vandalism occured.


 * I agree with you, these last edits by user Aardwolf68 are clearly directioned towards his personal hatred of the artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lionel juners (talk • contribs) 11:15, 23 October 2022 (UTC)