Talk:Fotos y Recuerdos/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Jivesh boodhun (talk · contribs) 10:06, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I feel like I am going to enjoy reading this. :P Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 10:06, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Media review (though there is none)

 * A music sample can be beneficial to the reader's understanding. If you can upload or ask someone to upload one, it should be 16 second long. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 10:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Infobox

 * Good. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 11:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

lead

 * recorded by American recording artist Selena from her fifth studio album --> for
 * For consistency, add (1982) after "Back on the Chain Gang" or say the Pretenders' 1982 song
 * In the first paragraph, ""Fotos y recuerdos" has been used too closely. Please find alternatives.
 * that has influences --> contains - Make the correction in Music, theme and lyrics as well
 * is about a lonely women who --> is about a lonely women who,
 * on the Billboard Top Latin Songs Year-End Chart and number one --> on the Billboard Top Latin Songs Year-End Chart, and number one
 * music critics who believed --> music critics, who believed
 * while many agree --> Use past tense
 * With "Fotos y recuerdos" and thirteen other of Selena's top-ten singles in the Hot Latin Songs chart she was named "top Latin artist of the '90s" and "Best selling Latin artist of the decade" by Billboard --> With "Fotos y recuerdos" and thirteen other of Selena's top-ten singles in the Hot Latin Songs chart, she was named "Top Latin artist of the [19]90s" and "Best selling Latin artist of the decade" by Billboard magazine - Make the correction elsewhere if needed
 * All ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Inspiration, production and songwriting controversy

 * While on tour for the Selena Live! Tour, --> Very choppy prose
 * Before recording sessions took place at Selena's father and manager Abraham Quintanilla Jr.'s recording studio Q-Productions, Quintanilla III had asked Selena if she wanted to record the song, she then supported the project. --> This sentence is a bit long in the sense that it illustrates many steps. You can cut it don into two sentences.
 * How would you suppose I end the first period? I tried but it didn't seem right to me. Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol. You just need to make two sentences instead of one. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 06:11, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  00:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * was in charge with sequencing the song --> of
 * reminisce --> Apply past tense
 * Link sampled to Sampling (music)
 * All ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Music, theme and lyrics

 * Link octave to where appropriate.
 * I can't find any other link that is appropriate. Do you have an alternative one I don't know about? Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, simply octave. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 06:04, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  00:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Lori Beth Rodriguez wrote in her book Mapping Tejana epistemologies: Contemporary (re)constructions of Tejana noted that "Fotos y recuerdos" --> Cut one of the verbs
 * If its the book, that's how it is spelled. Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with the spelling. ?You are using verbs in the wrong place. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 06:04, 3 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Unlink sample as you have to link it in its first occurrence
 * while also stating that --> ,adding that
 * The song tells --> The song or the lyrics?
 * her beloved each night before falling asleep." --> Why do I see that end quote?
 * Because its part of the quote. Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Where does it start? Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 06:04, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "Such a romantic view on the part of a woman for a man is echoed in Borderlands songs like "Fotos y recuerdos," sung by Selena of Corpus Christi. The song tells how a lonely woman kisses the photo of her beloved each night before falling asleep." Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  00:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Young rockers could identify with ["Fotos y recuerdos",] which took the melody of the New Wave act [the Pretenders]". --> Read WP:LQ and apply it here and everywhere else where necessary.
 * Link violins in the second paragraph
 * Link chorus to where appropriate
 * Link pop to where appropriate
 * All ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Release and chart performance, Critical reception

 * Create a section called Released and reception, then all this information. No need for such short individual sections.
 * "Fotos y recuerdos" was the fourth single from Amor prohibido and was released on February 11, 1995. --> "Fotos y recuerdos" was released as the fourth single from Amor prohibido on February 11, 1995.
 * El Chico del Apartamento 512 --> El Chico del Apartamento 512 (1995)\
 * Per WP:ALBUMCAPS Spanish-language songs are not supposed to be capitalize after the first word. Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What? Did I ever asked for that? I told you to add the year in brackets. Jivesh 1205 (Talk)
 * Sorry, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  00:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It is B-side with a major B
 * What? Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It is B-side not b-side. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 06:05, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  00:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * on its eleven week --> on its eleventh charting week
 * Many music critics believe that "Fotos y recuerdos" is an "improvement" and/or a "better version" of the Pretenders' original version --> Apply past tense
 * in the United States --> in the US
 * Overuse of "Fotos y recuerdos"
 * believed that the song was one of Selena's signature songs --> it
 * Apply the corrections in the lead to the last sentence here.
 * All ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Tributes

 * Over use of the word song
 * Link salsa
 * Link San Antonio Express-News
 * Rubio also sung the song --> Why are you using sung? It should be sang. But use perform for variation
 * All ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

More

 * Track listings and formats --> Formats and track listings
 * ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Credits and personnel
 * Good


 * Charts
 * Apply WP:ACCESS
 * I am unable to do this for the Hot Single Sales and the Latin 50 as there has not, yet, been one provided.


 * Note: Do you remember how you failed this article for only a few issues that could have easily been handled? Frankly, it was unfair. I can fail "Fotos Y Recuerdos" right now based solely on that huge amount of choppy prose it contains. But I won't because I believe that these issues can be dealt with. Remember that you have to give nominators the chance to apply the corrections and not/NEVER fail an article straightaway (unless it is really horrible). This is a friendly advice. :D Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 10:48, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The ol' days lolz. Yes I do remember, back then I was still on training and didn't know a lot of information that I do now :D Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I really hope you don't repeat that. :) Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 06:06, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

As it currently stands

 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:

- Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 11:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I will get back to this shortly. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 16:47, 7 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Passing. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 16:03, 8 January 2012 (UTC)