Talk:Frak!

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Electron polyphony
This is original research, and has been contested off-wiki. It may possibly be true, but still needs to be verifiable (as is the case with other aspects of the article, too). -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 12:16, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Electron Frak!
Hi, I noticed that you added a disputed note to the Frak! article. Was that prompted by my comment on the Retro Software forums?

I also noticed that there used to be a picture of the Electron version in the article but it was removed. I can supply images of the game and the level editor if that would be interesting. I tried uploading them to Wikipedia but do not have permission to do so yet.

On a related subject, I scanned an advert for Frak! that mentions an Amstrad version. Unfortunately, the original publication is unknown, though it was one of the more general computer magazines from the 1980s. Presumably more work would be needed to verify that one was planned before it could be mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidBoddie (talk • contribs) 14:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, and yes I think that's the case. I've been away for a week so will have a look and reply properly a bit later. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 21:38, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Yes, I remember your forum post leading to placement of the disputed tag (with link to Talk:Frak!).
 * You're also right about . This image can be recovered, so there should be no need to upload a replacement. was also previously used in place of File:Frak screen.png.
 * You should be able to upload images yourself after meeting various account criteria. The intention is that a number of constructive article edits be made from new accounts, and that accounts be more than a few days old. Copyrighted images are subject to the non-free content criteria (in order that most of the encylopedia remain free), and often get deleted if not meeting those criteria. WP:VGIMAGES provides some guidance specifically relating to computer games. I personally also adopt the preference for book covers at WikiProject Books/Images (i.e. first edition covers being of greater encyclopedic value) but haven't formally checked that consensus would be similar for VG guidelines. Maybe this is something which could be done, leading to the original plain BBC cover being used in place of the later C64 one.
 * Regarding the in-game editor on the Electron, we'd need sourced statements to be included in the article before adding an image itself. I guess that Electron User and other publications will have made reference to this.
 * Regarding the planned Amstrad version, reference to an advert may count as original research, so we'd really need to find a reference to it in reliable sources (maybe Amstrad magazines).
 * Finally, it might be worth copying/moving these comments to the article talk page, rather than here. I'll probably do so later. Thanks again for your note. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 10:13, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I have now uploaded images to show the gameplay and editor on the Acorn Electron version of the game.DavidBoddie (talk) 14:54, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

A ZX Spectrum clone of Frak
Automata's Pimeval Man (starring their Pi-Man character) appears to be a clone of Frak! on the ZX Spectrum, though the graphics, sound, and gameplay are all somewhat inferior. 86.130.41.222 (talk) 04:11, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Perfrak - 'adult' version
Pretty sure I didn't make this up, but I recall an 'adult' version of the game, where Trogg used his man member instead of a yoyo, the monsters were more vagina-like, and he would shout 'Fuck!' on dying instead of Frak! I played it on a BBC Master, pretty sure it was called PerFrak. Identical gameplay, so likely a humorous rip-off with some graphical resources changed. Only played it once or twice as the game didn't really appeal to me in either form (I'm a Chuckie Egg man).

Anyone any references/memories? Am I the only one? Am I going nuts and making this up?? Posting here for completeness just in case anyone else has memories, or better still find the binaries!

82.23.43.244 (talk) 22:48, 10 November 2014 (UTC)Edit: No I remember this too. It circulated at our school in ~1988/89 on disk and was a hacked version of the original game. One could probably reverse engineer the graphics out quite easily, hex edit the sprites or edit the source depending on how it was written on the BBC Micro I would guess, given the state of games, programming and home hacking at the time. I remember it being installed and passed around once we'd sourced the relevant admin rights via our dim-witted CompSci teacher. In those days it may have even been another famous game dev doing it for giggles anonymously. One of the many things I regret thinking wasn't important to keep as a 12 year old back then.