Talk:Frances Morris (gallerist)

Infobox
Infoboxes are not required. This article is still very short, and there is little that can be put in the infobox, as a result of which it gives prominence to her personal life. IMO it is a net negative, so I have removed it again. What are the reasons for having one? Yngvadottir (talk) 18:47, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Having an infobox is the default position for biographies. It is for editors who would prefer not to have one to make their case. As for any "prominence to her personal life", the article is a biography, so in a sense, it is all her personal life. To avoid any edit warring, I will reinsert it, but without anything that would ordinarily appear in a "Personal life" section. Edwardx (talk) 19:33, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That's a good compromise, thanks. Since we don't have a birthdate, there is next to nothing to put in it. I differ with your interpretation of policy and practice here; Arbcom decided that infoboxes were neither required nor deprecated and should be discussed on a case by case basis. Also with your view of biography: we have biographies only of notable people, and as with any topic, we aim to give the reader encyclopedically relevant information; that's to say, most of the article will be about what she has done, rather than her personal life per se. Where she received her education, for example, is more relevant than her being married. I can see the argument for an infobox in the case of an Olympic athlete, a footballer, or a baseball player - it's a place to put the tables. Or a politician - it's a place to put the dates in office (especially if they've held more than one major position). But I can't see the utility in a short bio like this where there is no such information that it's useful to have in tabular form. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:07, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * And thank you for your kind understanding. The only biographies where we don't routinely use infoboxes is in classical music. I agree that they can be even more useful in some subject areas than others. For a gallerist, one might include all the gallery positions they have held, with dates, and perhaps notable exhibitions curated. And don't forget the ever more important interactions between infoboxes and Wikidata. And if one does not like infoboxes, just ignore them! Edwardx (talk) 23:06, 15 April 2016 (UTC)